G-Rex
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Post by G-Rex on Jun 30, 2017 15:01:07 GMT 9
hi. ALL
so as you may know i have cheeky SOTUGYO'd from CIR lyf and am now working tourism ne
are you involved in local tourism? if so
promote your local area to me, and i will very seriously take on board any good suggestions for half-day or full-day trips to/around your region.
eg, an example day trip is either out of kyoto or osaka, we get a bus and take people to nara, they see todaiji and the buddha statue and the deer and all that shit and just come back. v simple. something we can do in a day. we don't need public transport options.
does your city/prefecture have a big tourism campaign they're trying to push? do they have a "product" or model course for visitors to your region?
some of the older CIRHPers may remember the trials and tribulations of the "MARUMARU NO KYOTO" campaign that i was involved with quite a lot. i am pretty close to having an OCHA NO KYOTO day tour to the south of the prefecture confirmed as part of a 3-series tour in 2018, and the groups will go and walk around all the tea fields and eat tea-themed food and pick tea etc.
this is happening cos i suggested it and our client liked it because they were looking for something different.
i would be interested to hear what kind of things visitors could do in your area. it can be as genre-specific or as "generic tourism" as you like. for example, we have had inquiries from people wanting to do a completely pottery-themed tour, or a school wanting to do a geography-themed tour where they learn about volcanoes and stuff.
this thread is your chance to put together a model day-tour of your area. as i said, i will seriously consider anything i think is a good plan and if i ever think i could fit it into a group itinerary. for example, if a group has a tight budget and it's their first time to japan, no offence but i'm not gonna take them to some natto museum in Gun Mother or something.
if i want more information from you, i'll pm you. no guarantees that i'll make any of these a reality but i thought this might be a good resource anyway. thanks hulemdos
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Post by Caic on Jun 30, 2017 15:08:22 GMT 9
Kokho tho
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Post by Mumblesnore on Jun 30, 2017 15:33:45 GMT 9
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Post by Shimanchu 2024 on Jun 30, 2017 15:39:14 GMT 9
Nagoya Considered one of the most boring large cities in Japan. As discovered in a survey done by the City of Nagoya. edit: c'mon down and I'll take you to a cool retro gaming bar, hue
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G-Rex
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Post by G-Rex on Jun 30, 2017 16:44:57 GMT 9
we actually already send plenty of people to the kokho i'm looking for places that aren't famous and superb and KOKUSAI KANKOU TOSI with KOKHO
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Post by Mumblesnore on Jun 30, 2017 16:48:34 GMT 9
My town is too FUBEN and MIYLOKU-NASI for anything connected to Kyoto But I hope this thread succeeds and some sort of new tour can be born from the forums; that would be pretty cool.
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Post by G-Rex on Jun 30, 2017 16:56:12 GMT 9
My town is too FUBEN and MIYLOKU-NASI for anything connected to Kyoto But I hope this thread succeeds and some sort of new tour can be born from the forums; that would be pretty cool. no but i mean, for example could a group get there from tokyo, stay a night or even two, and have things to do for the time they're there? if you were bringing family or hulemdos to your town from tokyo, what would you do? would you stop over somewhere on the way there? would you have a day there, and then go on to somewhere else?
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Post by Mumblesnore on Jun 30, 2017 17:18:54 GMT 9
My town is too FUBEN and MIYLOKU-NASI for anything connected to Kyoto But I hope this thread succeeds and some sort of new tour can be born from the forums; that would be pretty cool. no but i mean, for example could a group get there from tokyo, stay a night or even two, and have things to do for the time they're there? if you were bringing family or hulemdos to your town from tokyo, what would you do? would you stop over somewhere on the way there? would you have a day there, and then go on to somewhere else? Well, almost all of the people that come here to visit come for MANABI about the disaster, which includes touring around areas that have been preserved in their post-disaster destroyed state, listening to personal stories from a 語り部, and then touring around the construction area and learning about the reconstruction plan. In addition to that we do homestays and 農業・漁業体験. Ichinoseki is the closest shinkansen to us, and that is right next Hiraizumi, which is world heritage. So potentially it could be: arrive and spend 一泊目 in hiraizumi, and then go to Rikuzentakata for TSUNAMI MANABI, GYOGYO TAIKEN, and then homestay for 二泊目, and then go back to Tokyo on the third day. But public transportation between Ichinoseki and here is a pain. You have to either take local train for 1.5 hours and then a bus 50 minutes, or take a local bus for ~2.5 hours. But if it's for a tour, maybe you would charter a bus ne. That's all I got
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Post by ザ・penguin54 on Jun 30, 2017 17:25:35 GMT 9
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Post by marudate on Jul 3, 2017 8:53:42 GMT 9
I am happy to help put together sample itineraries and things to do to support travel companies, especially those looking to serve small groups/FIT travelers looking to get off the beaten tourist path and avoid overcrowded tourist areas. We have long been dominated by group tourism and need to move beyond that as it is dwindling.
Is this only for day trips from Kyoto? Where I am is more like 2 hr from Tokyo by train and there are direct LCC flights from KIX.
If you can message me with the type of tourist you are able to/interested in marketing to I can compile some ideas.
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Post by CaptainSeery on Jul 3, 2017 9:16:52 GMT 9
So these tours are not limited to just half or full day things? Multiple day trips would be acceptable? If so, may I offer two suggestions: 1. Dolphin/sea/SEKAI ISAN tour Location: Amakusa, Bear Origin Things you could include: dolphin watching boat tour (something like 98% chance you'll see them), visit to seaside church (soon to be selected (hopefully) as a SEKAI ISAN), all the seafood you could ever want, finding pearls 体験, onsen, sea kayaking, glass bottomed boat tour, snorkeling, beach visits.... 2. KANKYOU MANABI tour Location: Minamata, Bear Origin Things you could include: This would be somewhat similar in theme to Mumblesnore's tsunami manabi tour. You could learn about the environment and an example of a a very successful recovery from terrible pollution. Visit the Minamata disease museum, hear from 語り部, visit the Eco Park (built on reclaimed land containing all the polluted soil). You can also learn about reforestry, recycling, and eco-hulemdoly industry, visit a tea farm and pick tea, make washi and/or try dyeing with indigo, go snorkeling with seahorses, and hike to a number of waterfalls. Bonus: two onsen towns! Mention the upcoming adoption of the Minamata Convention and you might get more people interested. Throw in a half-day in Bear Origin city to visit the castle, and you can also MANABI about earthquakes.
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G-Rex
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Post by G-Rex on Jul 3, 2017 12:24:13 GMT 9
I am happy to help put together sample itineraries and things to do to support travel companies, especially those looking to serve small groups/FIT travelers looking to get off the beaten tourist path and avoid overcrowded tourist areas. We have long been dominated by group tourism and need to move beyond that as it is dwindling. Is this only for day trips from Kyoto? Where I am is more like 2 hr from Tokyo by train and there are direct LCC flights from KIX. If you can message me with the type of tourist you are able to/interested in marketing to I can compile some ideas. no no, it could be from anywhere really, i was just saying that our "standard" routes generally take us from tokyo - hakone - kyoto/osaka, so anywhere that is easily accessible from any of those places (eg, kanazawa, kobe, hiroshima) also gets visited quite often. we can do internal flights as well. it doesn't have to be a day trip, but if it's overnight then there should be enough for at least a full day of activities. So these tours are not limited to just half or full day things? Multiple day trips would be acceptable? If so, may I offer two suggestions: 1. Dolphin/sea/SEKAI ISAN tour Location: Amakusa, Bear Origin Things you could include: dolphin watching boat tour (something like 98% chance you'll see them), visit to seaside church (soon to be selected (hopefully) as a SEKAI ISAN), all the seafood you could ever want, finding pearls 体験, onsen, sea kayaking, glass bottomed boat tour, snorkeling, beach visits.... 2. KANKYOU MANABI tour Location: Minamata, Bear Origin Things you could include: This would be somewhat similar in theme to Mumblesnore 's tsunami manabi tour. You could learn about the environment and an example of a a very successful recovery from terrible pollution. Visit the Minamata disease museum, hear from 語り部, visit the Eco Park (built on reclaimed land containing all the polluted soil). You can also learn about reforestry, recycling, and eco-hulemdoly industry, visit a tea farm and pick tea, make washi and/or try dyeing with indigo, go snorkeling with seahorses, and hike to a number of waterfalls. Bonus: two onsen towns! Mention the upcoming adoption of the Minamata Convention and you might get more people interested. Throw in a half-day in Bear Origin city to visit the castle, and you can also MANABI about earthquakes. amazing, this is exactly the kind of thing i was after. doesn't need to be more detailed like this, and if i want/need more info i'll pm. again, no guarantees that i'll be sending any group anywhere, but this can be a nice catalogue of places just in case we do get a group in a certain area, or wanting to do very specific things. you'd be surprised.
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Post by CaptainSeery on Jul 3, 2017 12:27:54 GMT 9
Yay sempai noticed me :3
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Post by kira on Jul 3, 2017 16:17:19 GMT 9
1. Outdoor/Wildlife tour Start the day at Cape Toi, a beautiful coast where 102 wild horses can be found. Have lunch at Tagiri Hotel and proceed to Kojima Island by boat to see the wild monkeys. After returning on land, stop over at the beautiful Koigaura (Love Bay) before proceeding to Obi, a preserved old castle town.
2. Brewery Tour Visit the 3 breweries in Nobeoka to see how shochu, sake and beer are made. Hideji craft beer has been gaining popularity within Japan and overseas after they clinched the gold award at the Japan Asia Beer Cup. Visit Mt Atago which is not only beautiful for its night view but it also a popular dating spot as it is said that the god and goddess Ninigino Mikoto and Konohana Sakuyahime met and got married on Mt Atago.
You could also throw in snorkelling in the morning before visiting the breweries. Besides, Nobeoka is said to be the creator of Chicken Nanban, the specialty food of Miyazaki Prefecture.
3. Spiritual Tour Miyazaki is said to be the place where the gods first landed on earth, creating the country Japan. Shintoism also began here in Miyazaki. You could organise a day trip or 2 day trip that covers: - Viewing Mt. Takachiho from Gokuraku Onsen Takumi no Yado where they could enjoy the onsen. - Takachiho Gorge (Both Mt. Takachiho and Takachiho Gorge are said to be where the gods first landed) - Amano Iwato Shrine and Amano Yasukawara Cave (which are associated with the Sun Goddess Amaterasu) - Watching the night Kagura performance - Eda Shrine and Misogi Pond (where many gods and goddesses were created from a purification ceremony done at the pond) - Aoshima and Aoshima Shrine (associated with the gods Yamasachihiko and Umisachihiko) - Udo Shrine (one of the three greatest descending shrines in Japan). This shrine is associated with Yamasachihiko and Princess Toyotama. - Miyazaki Shrine (the birthplace of Emperor Jinmu, Japan’s first emperor)
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Post by Hokuto on Jul 4, 2017 9:23:46 GMT 9
damn, y'all are makin' me wanna plan some trips out to see your spots hahaha
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Post by CaptainSeery on Jul 4, 2017 14:12:22 GMT 9
I have done most of the things on the Spiritual Tour and they are all good destinations. After seeing many many shrines all over Japan they tend to blur together, but the shrines in Miyazaki are unique continue to remain fresh and interesting. Amano Iwato, Aoshima, and Udo are all really beautiful and interesting to visit.
Also if I'm going to rep all of Bear Origin, Aso is incredible and you should definitely make an Aso/Kurokawa/Bear Origin city tour.
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Post by hikaru on Jul 5, 2017 10:16:56 GMT 9
Otsu has pretty much everything, and is very accessible from Kyoto. We are also working hard to let's promoting the tourism. We are also often ignored due to a certain annoying neighbor that steals all the tourists away but we won't name any names *cough*
Stuff we regularly promote/do tours on in no particular order: 1. Biwa-Ichi (cycling around Lake Biwa in one day) 2. Omi Beef 3. Our many kokho such as Hiezan Enryakuji Temple, Miidera Temple, Ishiyamadera, etc. 4.Various boat cruises on the lake 5.Biwako Valley 6. Ogoto Onsen 7. Omi Jingu/karuta/chihayafuru hype
Also we have karahashi-yaki pottery and (seven of the) Eight Views of Omi and funazushi and more but you get the idea. Any and all of these can potentially be adjusted/combined to make a really cool day trip.
Pls see new promotion video that was very expensive to make for more because I know I'm forgetting stuff: youtu.be/6MfBhNShVZM
If anything looks interesting send me a pm!
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G-Rex
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Post by G-Rex on Jul 13, 2017 10:10:27 GMT 9
CaptainSeery kiracan you make these day trips from fukuoka? i have a group that looks like they'll be based in fukuoka for a few days
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Post by CaptainSeery on Jul 13, 2017 10:23:36 GMT 9
CaptainSeery kira can you make these day trips from fukuoka? i have a group that looks like they'll be based in fukuoka for a few days If they're willing to pay shinkansen costs, Shin-Minamata station is just one hour from Hakata, so definitely. Buses though are like, 4 hours.
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Post by G-Rex on Jul 13, 2017 10:32:30 GMT 9
CaptainSeery kira can you make these day trips from fukuoka? i have a group that looks like they'll be based in fukuoka for a few days If they're willing to pay shinkansen costs, Shin-Minamata station is just one hour from Hakata, so definitely. Buses though are like, 4 hours. shinkansen is totally fine. also, 10th-13th november. anything special going on then? might need more details from you on this one. PM me if you have time!
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Post by CaptainSeery on Jul 13, 2017 11:42:39 GMT 9
Couldn't say. This is what they had going on in November last year in Amakusa. I can't find a handy list like that for Minamata, but the fall rose festival goes for most of November. I'll PM you!
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kira
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Post by kira on Jul 13, 2017 13:37:41 GMT 9
CaptainSeery kira can you make these day trips from fukuoka? i have a group that looks like they'll be based in fukuoka for a few days It's possible if they are visiting just northern Miyazaki i.e. Takachiho and Nobeoka but it will take 3 hours one way. I'd highly recommend flying in which is the most time efficient way to see the most of Miyazaki. They could visit the places in Miyazaki City before driving up to Nobeoka and Takachiho. Aso is just an hour away from Takachiho so taking the Fukuoka-Miyazaki-Bear Origin-Fukuoka route might be the logical option.
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Post by B.B.P. on Jul 13, 2017 16:14:36 GMT 9
Tohoku region is pretty accessable and if the participants have JR Rail passes they'll be able to take shinkansen to most places.
Sendai is pretty central to neighbouring prefectures and has some pretty nice things to do within miyagi too
Nikka whiskey factory near Sakunami is pretty dope too. Also has a lot of nice nature in the area and is easily accessable via public transport.
Matsushima one of the three most beautiful spots of Japan is easy to get to too.
World heritage Hiraizumi is 1h30m ish away and can be done as a day trip (I really want to visit this place it seems pretty awesome)
Yamagata is also only an hourish on regular JR lines and is about 1100 yen from sendai station to yamagata station and there are a few jr passes available to both residents and non residents that can make it cheaper. Yamagata has yamadera and Ginzan which looks pretty.
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Post by marudate on Jul 13, 2017 16:33:08 GMT 9
Responding the the last post here are sample routes for Tohoku for a project that never quite got off the ground. The content is solid though, for people who want to experience as much as see and directly help support the recovery from the tsunami. www.tohokunow.com/
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Post by むちゃRABU❤ on Jul 13, 2017 16:37:59 GMT 9
Having worked in the tourism section and with tour agents a lot, let me give a little insight on what kind of information G-Rex might be interested in. 1) The types of transport available to reach said destination from the nearest major destination(s). 2) Events etc you can expect during specific seasons - I highly recommend things to do in your places in the traditionally "down season" or the times when people don't come as often. 3) Things to do include shopping, traditional activities, staying over, exchanges etc. but it would be nice to talk about the type of audiences those activities etc are actually trying to target in reality 4) Is non-Japanese language available? Even if not, how much fun can be had for what kinds of people (young adults, single travellers, couples, families etc) do you expect? 5) A link to webpages are always a plus If you provide info like this or can provide info up to this extent, the chances of him taking up your idea is actually much higher. imo. It still depends though on the type of demands he will get. ON THE OTHER HAND, you can also use this opportunity to ask G-Rex what rave reviews he has gotten from his tourists aka what attracts them the most (breakdown by demographic is best) so you will know how to PR your place better and/or suggest such PR activities to your office. What do you think?
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Post by Ividia on Jul 14, 2017 9:15:46 GMT 9
Hamamatsu is super keen to promote its lake, especially cycling, and I think there are lots of suggested tours that involve various combinations of: - cycle round some of the lake (or all of it, depending how much you want to cycle) - catch a boat across the rest of the lake (there are special bike boat things) - eating local speciality MIZUUMI NO SACHI (eel, oyster, shirasu, other seasonal stuff, etc) (ref: hamamatsu-daisuki.net/cycle/)Other things you could include: - kanzanji or bentenjima onsen - a side trip to the flower park, fruit park or garden park (all separate botanical gardens near the lake) - 5 old temples near the lake (my personal favourite is 方広寺, which also offers zen vegetarian lunches with fake vegetarian unagi and explanations of the principles of buddhist stuff (unfortunately only in Japanese, but they were happy for me to interpret when I took my family)) Things that are big right now but only domestic tourists will probably care: - the taiga drama museum - Ryotanji temple is the setting of the latest taiga drama (it's also a nice temple in its own right but v crowded right now, wouldn't recommend this year) The only downside with some of these places is that public transport is a bit difficult, since the lake is away from the centre of town Getting to Hamamatsu itself is super easy, and tbh I see its potential most as a quick stop between Tokyo and Kyoto (equidistant from both on the shink), with an onsen/lake/cycling based stop as a breather if you have people interested in the natural side of Japan, but also wanting to hit the main tokaido places We have a tourism division cir here as of last year so if you're interested I can put you in touch fake edit: also hamamatsu matsuri is legitimately great and really nuts, definitely think that's a wasted opportunity with the lack of tourists (takes place the 3 holiday days of Golden Week each year, flying giant kites near the sand dunes during the day, dragging floats round the town at night, general revelry and noise and drunkeness for 3 days straight, top bants) real edit: しt I forgot our industrial tourism and musical instrument stuff PR: hamamatsu is the centre of musical instrument manufacture in Japan, with the first domestically produced piano blah blah The upshot of that is that we have a really nice musical instrument museum (which my hulemdo who's into music decided was their favourite place from the whole trip when we hit Tokyo/Kyoto/Nara/Osaka/Hamamatsu(idgi personally)) Also, I think industrial tourism in the form of tours of our factories, particularly Yamaha/Suzuki are pretty common These places have public museums and 記念館 as well We also have the unagi pie factory, which is open to go look round too oh and if you want to see the most embarassing PR movie ever www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rRVG0y9QkE&feature=youtu.be
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Post by marudate on Jul 14, 2017 9:40:28 GMT 9
That is a 20 minute promotion film- what are they thinking? I still do not know what is waiting in Hamawaiting and assume it is mainly segways and unagi pie. I like the ending though where Tokugawa Ieyasu cut down these pretenders to the throne for their insolence. Now for the title of most embarrassing PR movie ever I humbly submit this new one from the hillbilly backwater of Miyagi. It features the hot and horny prefectural mascot in a fever dream with flying turtles. I like how it ends with the Governor's name and assume it was all his idea. www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9Gkus1V6wA
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kira
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Post by kira on Jul 14, 2017 10:18:44 GMT 9
hue! Getting the main casts to dress like that was probably the biggest mistake they made. Having fast forwarded through the video, I remember nothing about Hamamatsu other than 3 weirdos dressed in strange clothing
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Post by B.B.P. on Jul 14, 2017 10:34:03 GMT 9
That is a 20 minute promotion film- what are they thinking? I still do not know what is waiting in Hamawaiting and assume it is mainly segways and unagi pie. I like the ending though where Tokugawa Ieyasu cut down these pretenders to the throne for their insolence. Now for the title of most embarrassing PR movie ever I humbly submit this new one from the hillbilly backwater of Miyagi. It features the hot and horny prefectural mascot in a fever dream with flying turtles. I like how it ends with the Governor's name and assume it was all his idea. www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9Gkus1V6wA It's my boy Musubimaru~ I love him. edit I hate the lip part but I love the rest
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Post by marudate on Jul 14, 2017 10:54:06 GMT 9
Do you like the いっちゃう and あっという間いっちゃう part, too? And the invitation to ride the turtle? Musubimaru used to be in classy productions like this: www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4bLIPaVyd0 but now has been relegated to semi-pornographic films. I shudder to think what is next for that samurai rice ball. 7/18 UPDATE: The Mayor of Sendai is now calling for this spot to be pulled.
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