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Post by Researcher Irish on Nov 19, 2015 14:03:56 GMT 9
So as the young go-getters that we be with a bright bushy tails and rosey cheeks, striving for excellence and stalling at mediocrity, some of tend to take lots of tests. A lot of us have taken the JLPT, a couple of us the BJT and some others of us the 漢験.
What tests have you taken/are signed up for?
How did you study?
Is study ruining your life?
Are you playing less video games now? Is that upsetting?
I would like to know. I just took the BJT recently and should be taking the 漢定 (level 4 maybe) in February!
All of you are my favourites.
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Post by snell_mouse on Nov 19, 2015 14:06:21 GMT 9
I feel like this would be more appropriate in the work-related boards? It's going to get buried here and I think this is a good thing to have somewhere in the On the Job section. Even though I guess it could be seen as more personal development than professional, depending.
Edit: Though I guess it would also make it less likely for people to look at it -.-'
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Post by popchyk~ on Nov 19, 2015 14:08:48 GMT 9
The entrance exam for Adrien Brody's Unaccredited Acting School
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Post by The Occasional Freighnos on Nov 19, 2015 14:08:32 GMT 9
I hate studying for things.
Ever since I passed the JLPT N1 I feel like there's no other tests that I HAVE to take, so I've just been chilling.
I think the last test I took was that "Which Disney character are you?" test on Facebook.
I got 99% Gaston. Awww yeah.
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Post by Researcher Irish on Nov 19, 2015 14:09:28 GMT 9
I feel like this would be more appropriate in the work-related boards? It's going to get buried here and I think this is a good thing to have somewhere in the On the Job section. Even though I guess it could be seen as more personal development than professional, depending. Edit: Though I guess it would also make it less likely for people to look at it -.-' You are the Eternal Overlord. Please do as you wish. Also, feel free to move the Postgrad thread too. (Also I promise no more new threads today) |
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Post by Caic on Nov 19, 2015 14:11:44 GMT 9
I hate studying for things. Ever since I passed the JLPT N1 I feel like there's no other tests that I HAVE to take, so I've just been chilling. I think the last test I took was that "Which Disney character are you?" test on Facebook. I got 99% Gaston. Awww yeah. same, since jlpt, i haven just been chilling. I don't have much ambition to do any other studying |
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Post by snell_mouse on Nov 19, 2015 14:16:46 GMT 9
I feel like this would be more appropriate in the work-related boards? It's going to get buried here and I think this is a good thing to have somewhere in the On the Job section. Even though I guess it could be seen as more personal development than professional, depending. Edit: Though I guess it would also make it less likely for people to look at it -.-' You are the Eternal Overlord. Please do as you wish. Also, feel free to move the Postgrad thread too. (Also I promise no more new threads today) Thanks, I moved it. Apologies if this suddenly makes people stop realizing this/the other thread exists. (By the way I moved that one into the Post-JET section) In response to your actual post: I have stopped taking tests because of my interpreting class. -.-' |
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Post by Researcher Irish on Nov 19, 2015 14:20:05 GMT 9
I hate studying for things. Ever since I passed the JLPT N1 I feel like there's no other tests that I HAVE to take, so I've just been chilling. I think the last test I took was that "Which Disney character are you?" test on Facebook. I got 99% Gaston. Awww yeah. I hate studying for things. Ever since I passed the JLPT N1 I feel like there's no other tests that I HAVE to take, so I've just been chilling. I think the last test I took was that "Which Disney character are you?" test on Facebook. I got 99% Gaston. Awww yeah. same, since jlpt, i haven just been chilling. I don't have much ambition to do any other studying For you guys I recommend the BJT. It is just about a similar level to N1 however, it is impossible to study for because there are no books, vocab lists are anything for it. There are also only like 2 former sample questions books....... Therefore you get to get that cert but also do no study. |
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Post by snell_mouse on Nov 19, 2015 14:21:19 GMT 9
I researched French language certifications as well because I thought one might be nice to have, but then realized I wouldn't study/they are expensive or Japan-specific. -.-'
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Post by Caic on Nov 19, 2015 14:22:39 GMT 9
I hate studying for things. Ever since I passed the JLPT N1 I feel like there's no other tests that I HAVE to take, so I've just been chilling. I think the last test I took was that "Which Disney character are you?" test on Facebook. I got 99% Gaston. Awww yeah. same, since jlpt, i haven just been chilling. I don't have much ambition to do any other studying For you guys I recommend the BJT. It is just about a similar level to N1 however, it is impossible to study for because there are no books, vocab lists are anything for it. There are also only like 2 former sample questions books....... Therefore you get to get that cert but also do no study. ooo shiny cert for doing nothing?? I'm good at getting those. What does BJT actually involve? Are there levels like JLPT? |
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Post by songbanana on Nov 19, 2015 14:22:25 GMT 9
Would work as a CIR be proper prep for BJT?
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Post by Researcher Irish on Nov 19, 2015 14:24:44 GMT 9
I researched French language certifications as well because I thought one might be nice to have, but then realized I wouldn't study/they are expensive or Japan-specific. -.-' The DELF is internationally recognised and indeed all Europeans who know languages would be familiar with the common European Framework for Languages so its a good little thing to have. But its expensive and there is a 口頭試験 which would be terrifying. If I was to do one of the upper levels I would be paying over a man to speak to French people and there are far better things I could be doing with that man. |
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Post by snell_mouse on Nov 19, 2015 14:28:30 GMT 9
I researched French language certifications as well because I thought one might be nice to have, but then realized I wouldn't study/they are expensive or Japan-specific. -.-' The DELF is internationally recognised and indeed all Europeans who know languages would be familiar with the common European Framework for Languages so its a good little thing to have. But its expensive and there is a 口頭試験 which would be terrifying. If I was to do one of the upper levels I would be paying over a man to speak to French people and there are far better things I could be doing with that man. Exactly, haha. Would work as a CIR be proper prep for BJT? I would still recommend at least taking a practice test, because while there are lots of things that you may come across as a CIR, there are also business-related things that you may not see as a 非常勤職員 in a government office. Also some of the formats (like the reading+listening section where you have to listen to a conversation while looking at some 資料 and answer based on that) are tricky. |
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Post by Researcher Irish on Nov 19, 2015 14:28:46 GMT 9
Would work as a CIR be proper prep for BJT? Em. You realise how much actual incorrect 敬語 is used in the office. Graeme Howard had an example of this. I wasnt doing so well when I heard it so I forgot ^^ For you guys I recommend the BJT. It is just about a similar level to N1 however, it is impossible to study for because there are no books, vocab lists are anything for it. There are also only like 2 former sample questions books....... Therefore you get to get that cert but also do no study. ooo shiny cert for doing nothing?? I'm good at getting those. What does BJT actually involve? Are there levels like JLPT? Nah its like TOEIC. Everyone takes the same test and your level is awarded based on the results of that standardised test. I think there are five possible levels the highest being J1 * which is different from J1. Getting J1* is really difficult. I think last year of all the poeple who did the test, 2 peeps in Nagoya got it. |
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Post by snell_mouse on Nov 19, 2015 14:31:43 GMT 9
ooo shiny cert for doing nothing?? I'm good at getting those. What does BJT actually involve? Are there levels like JLPT? Nah its like TOEIC. Everyone takes the same test and your level is awarded based on the results of that standardised test. I think there are five possible levels the highest being J1 * which is different from J1. Getting J1* is really difficult. I think last year of all the poeple who did the test, 2 peeps in Nagoya got it. It's not pass/fail like JLPT. And J1+ is not impossible (I got ギリギリ J1+ level having taken 1-2 practice tests and not really studying), but I do think some preparation is necessary. |
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Post by Graeme Howard on Nov 19, 2015 14:32:52 GMT 9
Would work as a CIR be proper prep for BJT? Em. You realise how much actual incorrect 敬語 is used in the office. Graeme Howard had an example of this. I wasnt doing so well when I heard it so I forgot ^^ Ha ha. Yeah, one of the questions I got the first time I took the test was "A partner company has phoned and asked to speak to Xさん, but Xさん is taking the day off. What do you say to the person on the line?" It's multiple choice, so I had four options, and I picked "Ｘは本日お休みを頂いております", because that is what literally everyone in our office says. That answer is incorrect. The correct answer was, of course, "Ｘは本日、休暇を取っております" Fun test, 8/10 would take again would recommend to a hulemdo |
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Post by Researcher Irish on Nov 19, 2015 14:33:25 GMT 9
Nah its like TOEIC. Everyone takes the same test and your level is awarded based on the results of that standardised test. I think there are five possible levels the highest being J1 * which is different from J1. Getting J1* is really difficult. I think last year of all the poeple who did the test, 2 peeps in Nagoya got it. It's not pass/fail like JLPT. And J1+ is not impossible (I got ギリギリ J1+ level having taken 1-2 practice tests and not really studying), but I do think some preparation is necessary. 2 peeps in Nags got it last year but then again there only about 100 people taking the thing. |
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Post by The Occasional Freighnos on Nov 19, 2015 14:35:47 GMT 9
Em. You realise how much actual incorrect 敬語 is used in the office. Graeme Howard had an example of this. I wasnt doing so well when I heard it so I forgot ^^ Ha ha. Yeah, one of the questions I got the first time I took the test was "A partner company has phoned and asked to speak to Xさん, but Xさん is taking the day off. What do you say to the person on the line?" It's multiple choice, so I had four options, and I picked "Ｘは本日お休みを頂いております", because that is what literally everyone in our office says. That answer is incorrect. The correct answer was, of course, "Ｘは本日、休暇を取っております" Fun test, 8/10 would take again would recommend to a hulemdo Is that because 頂いております is double KEIGO and double KEIGO is a no-no? |
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Post by Graeme Howard on Nov 19, 2015 14:52:25 GMT 9
Ha ha. Yeah, one of the questions I got the first time I took the test was "A partner company has phoned and asked to speak to Xさん, but Xさん is taking the day off. What do you say to the person on the line?" It's multiple choice, so I had four options, and I picked "Ｘは本日お休みを頂いております", because that is what literally everyone in our office says. That answer is incorrect. The correct answer was, of course, "Ｘは本日、休暇を取っております" Fun test, 8/10 would take again would recommend to a hulemdo Is that because 頂いております is double KEIGO and double KEIGO is a no-no? There is that, but I understand it as being incorrect for the following reasons: 1) You wouldn't add the お before 休み because you are explaining someone from your own company's actions to someone from an outside company, which would require using 謙譲語, so the お is wrong. 休んでおります would be correct, for example. 2) This is complicated, but you wouldn't use 頂く at all because your coworker isn't receiving the time off from them, but from your own company. Saying you 頂く'd a day off from your own company places YOUR OWN COMPANY in a higher position, which makes saying it to an outsider incorrect. Basically, everything about it is wrong. |
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Post by The Occasional Freighnos on Nov 19, 2015 14:54:29 GMT 9
hue man, fuck Japanese.
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Post by telly on Nov 19, 2015 15:20:53 GMT 9
Two years ago, I took the TOIEC, just in case I needed it for when I might do SHOEKATSU in Japan. I got the maximum point number, 990 or so?! Can only recommend if you are not a native 英語人.
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Post by Researcher Irish on Nov 19, 2015 16:05:28 GMT 9
Two years ago, I took the TOIEC, just in case I needed it for when I might do SHOEKATSU in Japan. I got the maximum point number, 990 or so?! Can only recommend if you are not a native 英語人. Ｉd like to look a TOIEC paper once and see what is on it. Was it very easy ? |
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Post by telly on Nov 19, 2015 16:10:19 GMT 9
Two years ago, I took the TOIEC, just in case I needed it for when I might do SHOEKATSU in Japan. I got the maximum point number, 990 or so?! Can only recommend if you are not a native 英語人. Ｉd like to look a TOIEC paper once and see what is on it. Was it very easy ? I thought it was quite easy and I got weird looks for taking it, but I am not a native speaker after all. If you learn English visa reading and immersing yourself through games or movies or music, it should not be too hard. It probably is hard if all you do is memorise phrases and peek too often through your red ruler. Also, if I am not misremembering, there were quite a lot of different accents used throughout. |
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Post by Caic on Nov 19, 2015 16:14:43 GMT 9
Ｉd like to look a TOIEC paper once and see what is on it. Was it very easy ? I thought it was quite easy and I got weird looks for taking it, but I am not a native speaker after all. If you learn English visa reading and immersing yourself through games or movies or music, it should not be too hard. It probably is hard if all you do is memorise phrases and peek too often through your red ruler. Also, if I am not misremembering, there were quite a lot of different accents used throughout. yeah I wouldn't have known you weren't a native speaker until I saw you mention it. So much 英語力 |
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Post by CaptainSeery on Nov 19, 2015 16:31:01 GMT 9
Does BJT have a speaking or writing section or is it 100% multiple choice like JLPT?
I would not have confidence in taking BJT....
My pred took a Japanese bookkeeping exam while he was a CIR so you could always do that. The international association 支出 files are a mess because of it - he did it the "official" way for practice for the exam but literally no one understands that method. There was a lot of headscratching at first.
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Post by ザ・penguin54 on Nov 19, 2015 20:14:59 GMT 9
漢検1級...one day *stares wistfully off into distance* although I haven't been studying lately because やる気 and I aren't hulemdos.
also BJT. again, someday. (can you take that in ザ・海外?)
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Post by songbanana on Nov 20, 2015 13:16:10 GMT 9
Quickly scrolling through the BJT website says I think you can take it in the 海外. Looks multiple choice like JLPT with no productive skills tested.
I'm considering taking it just for the keigo study it will give me, but honestly I'm sick of paying money to test passive skills only--I've worked really hard on my accent, can someone give me points for that??
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Post by Ividia on Nov 20, 2015 13:49:24 GMT 9
I want to study for something because I am the opposite of Freighnos and I like (and miss) studying
I don't know what though
(after N1 I have been at a loss, like others)
Opinions on this page have been useful.
A lady at one of my 講座 the other day suggested I take the 観光案内士 qualification because it would demonstrate knowledge of Japanese language/composition (i.e. in answering the essay-style questions in Japanese) and that I know about the history/geography of Japan.
I looked it up briefly and had a good laugh at the pamphlet hold on
"Certified guides can make your precious occasion of visiting Japan more enjoyable and more memorable."
"certified guides will help you familiarize yourself with Japanese ways of thinking and living, which are often difficult for visitors to understand"
and my personal favourite
"unqualified and illegal guides are subject to punishment under the Interpreter-Guide Law (up to 500 thousand yen fine) as they are likely to spoil your valuable time in Japan"
I don't think I'll take this after all
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Post by brian on Dec 16, 2015 15:57:35 GMT 9
This has got me thinking about BLT.
There's kentei for almost anything.
Has anyone taken or considered any really random kentei??
What kentei would you like to take if it existed? (maybe it does!)
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Post by snell_mouse on Dec 16, 2015 16:01:53 GMT 9
I have always thought G-Rex should take the 京都検定. We made jokes about taking the 七尾検定 in Ishikawa when we were there too. |
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