Shimanchu 2024
Well you can tell by the way I use my star I'm a woman's star, no time to star. Music loud and starring stars I been starred around, since I was star.
中年危機イン沖
Posts: 6,892
CIR Experience: ULTIMATE UNICORN (6th year)
Location: Okinawa
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Post by Shimanchu 2024 on Jul 8, 2020 8:35:29 GMT 9
Hi all. HISASYIBULI again So, I've been asked by the PNW JETAA to participate in a Q&A session for the JETs departing from Seattle this summer. (So, if you're a CIR departing out of Seattle this year, and you're planning on attending the new departure orientations, SPOILER WARNING). I've been asked to answer questions specifically regarding "What to expect from your Japanese coworkers". Since I can only speak on this from my own personal CIR experience, I want to know what kinds of things everyone on the forums here think would be helpful to talk about in this regard for the SYINKI JETs. They've probably already heard that they're gonna get NIHONGO JOUZUd or OHASHI TSUKAERU NO?d a lot, so I'm thinking they may want to hear about other stuff that they won't be hearing about hundreds of times from other places. For example, maybe tips on how to help Japanese people feel more relaxed and more able to break past that TATEMAE open up to you, or tips on gaining the respect and trust of your Japanese coworkers? Anything you can think of would help greatly. 4649!
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Post by dr. pussy popper on Jul 8, 2020 9:39:14 GMT 9
I think it’s important to point out ESID with coworkers just as the quality and content of one’s work varies wildly depending on your CO. Coworkers tend to be influenced a lot by whatever the “work culture” of your CO is, so it’s important to learn what that culture is and embrace the local WA.
I’ve had two very different experiences in my offices so I guess I’ll detail those things here. I wish I knew some of this stuff beforehand.
At the art center, the work culture, because it was an artist residency, was very much “figure stuff out on your own and decide on your own what needs to be done.” This was all very confusing because I didn’t know what to do/ why to do things without training. In general Japanese coworkers tend to not be as straightforward as Western counterparts that people are used to. Instead of being given straight forward instructions for a task, you might be given some super vague explanation. Or just told to observe a situation and figure it out from there. 報・連・相 is really important and people should be prepared to ask a lot of follow up questions and go through trial and error. Things won’t be explained to you, so it’ll be up to you to ask “is this ok?” until you get it right. To tend to gain respect by showing a willingness to learn and self improve.
At city hall people won’t point out blatant mistakes until too late. Always keep your eyes peeled for how others around you are behaving and try to mimic their behavior. Sometimes you’ll think everything’s chill because nothing has been pointed out to you, but people are secretly talking about you doing something weird/not ok behind your back because they’re non-confrontational. Try to shadow how people talk with guests or on the phone to learn what’s acceptable for your CO. Ask lots of questions because the TATEMAE is there and you might not know what’s ok and what’s not unless you straight up ask.
Not all Japanese people are polite hue. You might unfortunately get placed somewhere where people are straight up rude and no, your ears are not deceiving you. You CAN do something about it. You might get bullied from reporting someone or taking things up the chain of command, but those are totally options for you and you don’t have to put up with being disrespected.
You can set the parameters for your relationships with others. If you are going to be overly stiff and polite with coworkers, they will be stiff to you in return. I’ve noticed that the more I’m willing to be bubbly and honest with people, the more I get of the same treatment in return when people realize they’re comfortable around you. It makes work a lot smoother when you break down a barrier of formalities.
Don’t overly bother people with questions about Japanese, but people do like it when you ask for what phrases are more formal, how to write an excellent email/letter/report/etc., or ask if you can listen to how they deal with phone or IRL correspondence. It shows people that you are eager to improve yourself and definitely builds up trust.
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Post by Dee on Jul 8, 2020 15:41:56 GMT 9
Here are my 2 cents on this subject.
When you get the "NIHONGO JOZU" or "HASHI JOZU" comments, instead of rolling your eyes, turn it into a conversation. Whenever I get the "OHASHI JOZU" I always comment on how I used HASHI in my home country and that I love to cook Japanese food. This then allows me to ask about my co-worker's favorite foods and helps you get to know one another. Who knows, maybe you both like to cook and end up swapping recipes or having dinner together.
Another way to kind of break the ice with new co-workers is to ask questions or comment on things you notice. For example, if you like something another co-worker is wearing, comment on it. "I really like that sweater you are wearing, where did you get it?" Do they have something interesting on their desk? "Where did you get that mascot plushy?" "That's a nice photo, is that your family?"
I also agree with Jelly's comment about 報・連・相. Japanese workers can be so vague when giving instructions. If you're not sure about exactly what you are supposed to be doing, or if there's a particular format that reports need to be written in, just ask. Don't be scared to ask for help. This is a new workplace, so of course, you're not going to know how that particular office does everything.
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Post by 𝑜𝓇𝒾𝒽𝒾𝓂𝑒 on Jul 8, 2020 16:07:25 GMT 9
I second what dee said about the Nihongo/hashi jouzu thing, although my approach is a little different* . It's better to challenge their stereotypes (without being a total geoduck about it) and educate them rather than get annoyed about it ^^;; Japan doesn't really seem to learn much more than stereotypes about other countries so they just...aren't aware of a lot of things about the wider world, which sure it can be frustrating at times, but it's not entirely their fault that they don't get taught about that stuff or that the media here mostly focuses on Japan ^^;; *I normally chuckle and tell them like 'we do have chopsticks and Japanese food etc. in my country too ^^;; ' or for the Nihongo jouzu, I'm like 'well I did study it as my major at uni and do a year abroad in Japan'
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robotmakingtea
Tried natto; not a fan
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Post by robotmakingtea on Jul 9, 2020 10:38:13 GMT 9
I definitely resonate with the comment about trying not to be stiff. In the stress of settling in, it's easy to distance yourself from colleagues, especially when you're not confident with your language and they are quite reserved. I ended up falling into the trap of only having conversations with people when they asked about the UK.
So my best advice about office atmosphere is try and learn about the area through conversation with people, and make sure you're not closing yourself off. In the long run, it will mean that you have a more comfortable office environment and you get included in the information.
I also second the trial and error - depending on your placement, your coworkers might have worked with several CIRs, or this might be their first time. For many of us, there is no system or "right way" to do things in place. Make sure you try things early on, take notes on what you get corrected on / told off for, and try to come up with your own system. In the long run, it will help you to push forward events and ideas you believe in while still meeting the expectations of your office.
Finally, you might have a "probationary" or "trial" period over your first 6 months to 1 year, so don't expect to experience everything you can as a CIR in that time. Your colleagues won't trust you with certain things, and it can be frustrating to be checked up on, corrected or not given work you know that you're capable of - or told off for taking the initiative and getting something done without checking in with your supe, for example. But be patient, and try to show that you are taking notice of the way it is done in your office. Once your colleagues are secure in their own work and in your ability to do it the [insert CO name] way, you might find yourself given more responsibility or freer reign! - That would be my two cents!
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Shimanchu 2024
Well you can tell by the way I use my star I'm a woman's star, no time to star. Music loud and starring stars I been starred around, since I was star.
中年危機イン沖
Posts: 6,892
CIR Experience: ULTIMATE UNICORN (6th year)
Location: Okinawa
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Post by Shimanchu 2024 on Jul 16, 2020 3:15:43 GMT 9
These are all great ideas, MINNA ALIGATO!! I feel like the underlying message I'm getting here, under layers of details, is that it's pretty danged easy to get frustrated and jaded as a CIR, and maybe even as a JET in general, depending on your situation, your expectations, and your goals. But if you are able to turn these situations into positive exchanges with people, everyone involved will come out better for it. Thanks! I might have some more questions or ask for more opinions later, but for now this seems like it'll do.
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