dango
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Post by dango on Aug 21, 2015 11:54:23 GMT 9
The test for the Translation And Interpretation Seminar in Saga. I think I'll have mine in a couple of weeks. Is it hard? What kinds of questions are there? I was looking for details and couldn't find anything.
Please help me mighty 先輩方....
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Post by snell_mouse on Aug 21, 2015 12:00:18 GMT 9
I think it's more of a 確認 that you have a certain level of Japanese knowledge, rather than anything else. If it hasn't changed since I took it two years ago, there should be a written portion and a speaking portion where you have to listen to something and then record yourself interpreting it into English/Japanese. I think the written was a combination of grammar questions and then some translations? It was a while ago so my memory is fuzzy.
But I remember thinking I didn't do very well but I still got in, so I wouldn't stress too much about it! (Easier said than done I know, haha)
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dango
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Post by dango on Aug 21, 2015 13:36:50 GMT 9
Thanks! It's at least to know a bit of what I am up against. I was wondering if I should study at all since I'm totally 暇 right now, but I may just review some grammar points. If I'm not allowed to use a dictionary then hello! to writing everything is lame old hiragana. My kanji writing skills aren't the best...
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Post by snell_mouse on Aug 21, 2015 13:40:12 GMT 9
If you've got the time, it can't hurt to study, so why not?
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bdawg
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Post by bdawg on Aug 25, 2015 12:20:05 GMT 9
Did anyone take their translation test on a mac?
It specifically says Windows, but then goes on to mention something about Safari...
I imagine they prefer windows, but a lot of people take it on mac.
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japam
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Post by japam on Aug 26, 2015 7:22:06 GMT 9
I'm in the same boat as you, Dango. I'll be taking the test in a couple of weeks. I want to revise for it but it's tricky to know how The CIR先輩 in my office said she thought she'd failed but hadn't. So perhaps I/we'll end up saying the same thing.
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Post by Caic on Aug 26, 2015 9:28:55 GMT 9
there is apparently 150 places on it and probably a similar amount of 1st plus 2nd year 英語圏 CIRs.. I think ALTs can do it too which may be why there may be a number issue so they got to do a test. Surely they wouldnt not let us do it considering it is a main part of our jobs?
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Post by snell_mouse on Aug 26, 2015 9:31:55 GMT 9
I don't think you would get in just for being a CIR (some ALTs can speak Japanese just as well if not better), but at the same time being a CIR in the first place should help your odds, since you already have been recognized to have enough Japanese ability to be one.
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keio chris
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Post by keio chris on Aug 26, 2015 9:38:31 GMT 9
there is apparently 150 places on it and probably a similar amount of 1st plus 2nd year 英語圏 CIRs.. I think ALTs can do it too which may be why there may be a number issue so they got to do a test. Surely they wouldnt not let us do it considering it is a main part of our jobs? I had the same exact gripe last year so you're doing well in mimicking me young one. However, I think there were only like 20-30 or so ALTs there in the end, so it shouldn't really affect you as long as you complete the test.* *My pred failed to do this, instead choosing to run out of the room crying half way through one of the sections.
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Post by songbanana on Aug 26, 2015 10:30:28 GMT 9
The CIR先輩 in my office said she thought she'd failed but hadn't. So perhaps I/we'll end up saying the same thing. That's exactly what I thought and I got in. I took it as an ALT. I'd passed N2 but had never translated or interpreted formally before, if that gives you a guide as to my level. As for the test itself, I remember there being lots of words I didn't know, but no real tricky questions or curveballs in terms of format. I think it was similar to the vocab section of the JLPT (but no star questions or anything). Like snell said there's also a portion where you have to do some translation and interpretation. I remember that 松 or some kind of tree came up and I blanked and just said "matsu tree" or something, but in hindsight it was fairly par for the course for CIR work and not too specialized. There's no handwriting section, thank goodness. Anyway just to echo what the other 先輩 have said, I think it's just to make sure you're at a decent language level, because if you were already a boss translator then you wouldn't need to course would you? And I think there were 1-3 other ALTs in my class, but it was mostly CIRs and I was really intimidated by that, haha. So there's probably other people feeling more inadequate than you... **Also I think the seminar is in that place with the Lake and NOTHING ELSE, not Saga, unless they changed it?
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Post by snell_mouse on Aug 26, 2015 10:33:48 GMT 9
Also I did the test on paper (because our internet browser didn't meet the requirements hahaha orz) and couldn't remember how to write half the kanji and felt dumb for writing things in hiragana but it was totally fine. I think if you guys just take the test seriously (not necessarily to the point of studying super hard or freaking out or anything, just not treating it like a joke) then you'll most likely be fine.
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G-Rex
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Post by G-Rex on Aug 26, 2015 12:53:43 GMT 9
Also I did the test on paper (because our internet browser didn't meet the requirements hahaha orz) and couldn't remember how to write half the kanji and felt dumb for writing things in hiragana but it was totally fine. I think if you guys just take the test seriously (not necessarily to the point of studying super hard or freaking out or anything, just not treating it like a joke) then you'll most likely be fine. god that sounds like hell
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Shimanchu 2024
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Post by Shimanchu 2024 on Aug 26, 2015 14:08:37 GMT 9
I hope I never have to take a kanji writing test again for the rest of my life
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su
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Post by su on Aug 26, 2015 14:15:14 GMT 9
I'm going to take the test as well in a couple weeks. aahhh. I hope we all do well!
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Post by The Occasional Freighnos on Aug 26, 2015 15:30:51 GMT 9
Wait, is this different from the CLAIR T&I course? Because the other CIRs and I have been dying to take that but the 県庁 doesn't want to pay for it even though T&I is basically all we do. I'll just take it as a tacit admission that we're already pretty good at our jobs.[soup]but I wanted to hang out with everyone in that place with the Lake and NOTHING ELSE [/soup]
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Post by Caic on Aug 26, 2015 16:30:00 GMT 9
Wait, is this different from the CLIAR T&I course? Because the other CIRs and I have been dying to take that but the 県庁 doesn't want to pay for it even though T&I is basically all we do. I'll just take it as a tacit admission that we're already pretty good at our jobs.[soup]but I wanted to hang out with everyone in that place with the Lake and NOTHING ELSE [/soup] same thing man. I would just take it that way yes, for sure
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dango
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Post by dango on Aug 28, 2015 13:29:01 GMT 9
Thanks for all of the advice everyone. I'm super hulemdoly with the CLAIR Rep in the office and she told me that was was going to be procturing the test so I imagine that she will be using a paper version. Hiragana here we go-!
I was totally studying 3rd grader kanji because I couldn't remember how to write some of it. (Man, do I love computers. )But now I can finally write all the seasons again!!! *cries quietly*
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Post by Caic on Aug 28, 2015 13:56:08 GMT 9
Thanks for all of the advice everyone. I'm super hulemdoly with the CLIAR Rep in the office and she told me that was was going to be procturing the test so I imagine that she will be using a paper version. Hiragana here we go-! I was totally studying 3rd grader kanji because I couldn't remember how to write some of it. (Man, do I love computers. )But now I can finally write all the seasons again!!! *cries quietly* You made me realise I had to think about the season kanji...I think I got them... maybe.. My soup forwarded me the details for the test online but hasn`t told me when I`m doing it yet.. I don`t think I could handle doing handwritten test, good luck
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dango
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Post by dango on Aug 28, 2015 14:03:04 GMT 9
hue, right? My co-worker is a kanji otaku and is whipping out 薔薇 (ばら) And 蝋燭(ろうそく) all over the place.
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Post by Caic on Aug 28, 2015 14:04:41 GMT 9
thats not a fellow CIR right? Cos thats hard... Maybe I could read it but definitely not handwrite it.
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dango
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Post by dango on Aug 28, 2015 14:07:12 GMT 9
Fellow CIR *hangs head in shame* I can write 3rd grader kanji.
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Post by Sparkles on Aug 28, 2015 14:13:06 GMT 9
Remember that it's not a contest between you and your Fellow CIR, dango. You'll only make yourself miserable if you constantly compare yourself to them.* Follow your own pace, and remember -- you DID make it here as a CIR! Whether you wrote your entire translation test in hiragana won't matter in the long run; just show them what you know and do your best with it. So your Fellow CIR may be a kanji otaku and that's the thing that makes them happy, yay and best wishes for them, but you don't need to be them or live up to them or anything, be you and work on things you want to work on. It's completely okay to have different priorities in life and learning. Back to the test -- seriously, just do as best as you can, and if for whatever reason you don't pass and stay a second year, you'll know what you're up against and have another go. Good luck! *I speak partially from personal experience. I had a wonderful pred beloved by many, and my Fellow CIR is extremely MAJIME and YUUSHUU. But we have different strengths and it makes our workplace more well-rounded to have both of us!
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Post by King Quailbee on Aug 28, 2015 14:19:11 GMT 9
Is Chrome seriously だめ or is that just some weird thing going on? :/ (Fellow mac user)
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dango
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Post by dango on Aug 28, 2015 14:23:51 GMT 9
Thanks! <3 It's nice of you to say. I don't really think that I will waste my time trying to memorize old kanji, but that is what gets his Japanese motor running and more power to him! I am slightly embarrassed at my inability compared to his ability, but it really is okay. I'm way better at communicating in conversation and making everyone happy, and those are where my language strenghts lie. :3 Totally okay with that. My old, old predecessor was amazing and everyone still talks about him. He was like Super Amazing CIR, so I hope I can someday be spoken of fondly like that. That's my goal! And yeah, if I fail the test or whatever, there is always next year! Pssh. I passed N1 somehow, so I think I'll do okay.
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Post by songbanana on Aug 28, 2015 15:10:32 GMT 9
Echoing what Sparkles said. After meeting and hanging out with Sparkles's pred, snell's pred, and my pred, I was convinced that I was going to be a しtty CIR at best (even though I later found out they were the reason I got this job) but I've been amazed at how Sparkles and snell have totally made the job their own and now I think about how their successors will have big shoes to fill.
Still felt wicked inadequate when my pred handwrote a beautiful letter in flawless Japanese and lady-like handwriting. But I guess I have different strengths (just not in the kanji department D:)
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Graeme Howard
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Post by Graeme Howard on Aug 28, 2015 15:16:36 GMT 9
it's okay guys we're all failures, because none of us are as awesome as ザ・penguin54
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Post by ザ・penguin54 on Aug 28, 2015 15:37:40 GMT 9
it's okay guys we're all failures, because none of us are as awesome as ザ・penguin54After that time we were alone in the sushi restaurant, this is the second time I feel like you've been hitting on me I hope it's not the last
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Graeme Howard
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Post by Graeme Howard on Aug 28, 2015 15:46:46 GMT 9
it's okay guys we're all failures, because none of us are as awesome as ザ・penguin54After that time we were alone in the sushi restaurant, this is the second time I feel like you've been hitting on me I hope it's not the last you've inspired me to seriously take on the kanken and i want to be like you someday i've been studying for about an hour and a half a day i'm going to try taking 4級 in november i know and can read all of them but can write basically none but i'm learning fun words i didn't know, at least like 煙雨 and 超越 and 目白押し so, thank you, ザ・penguin54. you saved my life.
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Post by ザ・penguin54 on Aug 28, 2015 15:52:32 GMT 9
*tugs collar, fans self*
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Post by Researcher Irish on Sept 1, 2015 16:24:37 GMT 9
Im also taking 4級 ペンギン but I dont hit on anti-semites.
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