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Post by Miscreative on Sept 9, 2016 15:16:07 GMT 9
I have been tasked with doing cooking classes.
luckily the planning that i have to take care of is what my pre-cooking presentation will be, what we will cook, and of course the ingredients, etc when it gets closer to the day.
we finally picked the dates, and i have my themes.
day 1 is "american cafes"
i will explain the american cafe experience as i know it (stressing that i am not from all over america and am not omniscient) then we will cook probably a soup and/or sandwich, hopefully make a drink of some kind ("italian soda"?) and i will probably make the dessert and we share (then give them the recipe)
day 2 is "party food"
i will explain the different types of parties/get-togethers and the foods that go with them. again stressing that i dont know all but also trying to branch out and explain other types of christmas dinner (for example).
this is where i need your help. what food(s) would be good to do in a cooking class that are "american party foods" my tanto suggested we go with the theme of the Super Bowl because it will be that season but i abhor the idea. i was thinking dishes that almost always show up at my family's get togethers- my mom's potato salad, deviled eggs, chili, potato soup, casseroles...
i am most concerned about availability of ingredients and ability to turn it into a meal without having to make 4 different big dishes?
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Post by Caic on Sept 9, 2016 15:21:43 GMT 9
HANBAAGAA
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Post by Miscreative on Sept 9, 2016 15:35:24 GMT 9
no. i think we are going to go with chili, potato salad, deviled eggs, and frogs eyes, and maaaaaybe a veggie tray. |
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Post by King Quailbee on Sept 9, 2016 15:50:48 GMT 9
Frogs eyes are frightening.
Good.
(You could teach them how to make a Monte Cristo sandwich...delicioso)
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Post by Mumblesnore on Sept 9, 2016 16:02:39 GMT 9
when i think party food i think dips and when i think dips i think hummus
(not American though innit)
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Post by King Quailbee on Sept 9, 2016 16:03:38 GMT 9
I think of nacho dip. And guacomole dip.
Hummus isn't that popular in the SW.
Only in the NW.
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Post by Mumblesnore on Sept 9, 2016 16:04:14 GMT 9
no. i think we are going to go with chili, potato salad, deviled eggs, and frogs eyes, and maaaaaybe a veggie tray. Deviled eggs is the best idea!!!!!
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Post by Miscreative on Sept 9, 2016 16:06:24 GMT 9
no. i think we are going to go with chili, potato salad, deviled eggs, and frogs eyes, and maaaaaybe a veggie tray. Deviled eggs is the best idea!!!!!
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my moms potato salad and deviled eggs recipes are very similar so making them together makes sense.... tho i grew up making mine on the sweet side and had no idea why they were called "deviled" until a few months ago when i wrote up my recipe |
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Post by Mumblesnore on Sept 9, 2016 16:07:57 GMT 9
also, TIL frog eyes
what part of the country eats those?
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Post by Miscreative on Sept 9, 2016 16:09:31 GMT 9
when i think party food i think dips and when i think dips i think hummus (not American though innit) I think of nacho dip. And guacomole dip. Hummus isn't that popular in the SW. Only in the NW. agreed but getting the ingredients to do all that sounded full of mendou so... |
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Post by Miscreative on Sept 9, 2016 16:11:08 GMT 9
also, TIL frog eyes what part of the country eats those? Midwest? tho to be fair i didnt hear about them until.... high school? puppy chow is also apparently a midwest thing that wasnt a part of my childhood and my college hulemdos (re?)introduced me to it |
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Post by no yark shark on Sept 12, 2016 9:26:04 GMT 9
How long are these events? Four dishes sounds like a lot to me. Also don't things like chili and soup need a long time to simmer?
When I do cooking classes they're usually from 10:00-1:00, with 12:00-1:00 being eating time. I did two recipes (chicken and dumplings/applesauce one time and Macaroni and Cheese/Choco Chip cookies the other) and it was plenty of work and enough food to feel like a decent meal, I think.
I do think your menu for the party one is spot-on but it's funny because each of those things represents a different season to me (except frog eyes, I have no idea what those are). My family always eats devilled eggs at Easter, Potato Salad in the Summer, and Chili at our Halloween Party, hue. But that's interesting in and of itself.
Do you have a costco you can go to? That could be helpful for finding ingredients (although it's always changing so there are some things I always expect to find and then can't). Also I feel like they may have vegetable trays? Or maybe Aeon does as well.
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Post by Miscreative on Sept 12, 2016 9:39:03 GMT 9
How long are these events? Four dishes sounds like a lot to me. Also don't things like chili and soup need a long time to simmer? When I do cooking classes they're usually from 10:00-1:00, with 12:00-1:00 being eating time. I did two recipes (chicken and dumplings/applesauce one time and Macaroni and Cheese/Choco Chip cookies the other) and it was plenty of work and enough food to feel like a decent meal, I think. I do think your menu for the party one is spot-on but it's funny because each of those things represents a different season to me (except frog eyes, I have no idea what those are). My family always eats devilled eggs at Easter, Potato Salad in the Summer, and Chili at our Halloween Party, hue. But that's interesting in and of itself. Do you have a costco you can go to? That could be helpful for finding ingredients (although it's always changing so there are some things I always expect to find and then can't). Also I feel like they may have vegetable trays? Or maybe Aeon does as well. we are doing a presentation+cooking class in one so this will be from like 10-2 with the presentation being about an hour long. interesting! we always just 適当 the menu based on what we feel like cooking. and everyone loves our deviled eggs and potato salad. the chili is for when we have a get together but we cant be bothered to go all out and get ham/roast whatever (so usually birthday parties and what not). we do not have a costco but there was a mention of ordering online thru Aeon online super or something similar. good call on just buying them tho (i mean really, who has ever MADE their veggie tray). it was mostly because i sensed a distinct lack of 野菜.... as for it being a lot... the potato salad and deviled eggs are really a 2 in 1 (for my family's recipe anyway) and we are going to pre boil the eggs and potatoes so all they have to do is assemble. as for the chili, i am going to make my presentation such that we cover basic stuff, mention chili, get up and make the chili, while it simmers, finish the presentation, and so on. what are your feelings on my cafe themed menu? (i also need to eventually sort out specifically which soup/sandwich to do...) orz |
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Post by no yark shark on Sept 12, 2016 9:49:39 GMT 9
How long are these events? Four dishes sounds like a lot to me. Also don't things like chili and soup need a long time to simmer? When I do cooking classes they're usually from 10:00-1:00, with 12:00-1:00 being eating time. I did two recipes (chicken and dumplings/applesauce one time and Macaroni and Cheese/Choco Chip cookies the other) and it was plenty of work and enough food to feel like a decent meal, I think. I do think your menu for the party one is spot-on but it's funny because each of those things represents a different season to me (except frog eyes, I have no idea what those are). My family always eats devilled eggs at Easter, Potato Salad in the Summer, and Chili at our Halloween Party, hue. But that's interesting in and of itself. Do you have a costco you can go to? That could be helpful for finding ingredients (although it's always changing so there are some things I always expect to find and then can't). Also I feel like they may have vegetable trays? Or maybe Aeon does as well. we are doing a presentation+cooking class in one so this will be from like 10-2 with the presentation being about an hour long. interesting! we always just 適当 the menu based on what we feel like cooking. and everyone loves our deviled eggs and potato salad. the chili is for when we have a get together but we cant be bothered to go all out and get ham/roast whatever (so usually birthday parties and what not). we do not have a costco but there was a mention of ordering online thru Aeon online super or something similar. good call on just buying them tho (i mean really, who has ever MADE their veggie tray). it was mostly because i sensed a distinct lack of 野菜.... as for it being a lot... the potato salad and deviled eggs are really a 2 in 1 (for my family's recipe anyway) and we are going to pre boil the eggs and potatoes so all they have to do is assemble. as for the chili, i am going to make my presentation such that we cover basic stuff, mention chili, get up and make the chili, while it simmers, finish the presentation, and so on. what are your feelings on my cafe themed menu? (i also need to eventually sort out specifically which soup/sandwich to do...) orz potato is yasai though (also we at least usually have celery in our potato salad too I think)? Also chili usually has beans? And yeah, devilled eggs are super easy so that's not really a worry at all. A full hour seems long for a presentation but I guess if you work some cooking in between it's not that much. Hm, idk what to tell you for the Cafe one...it seems okay to me although maybe a bit simple? Not that that's really an issue. My classes were simple but people still enjoyed them. Cafes aren't really my thing and when I do go I usually get quiche (I'm not a huge sandwich or soup person). You could do grilled cheese and tomato soup? That's pretty classic American. |
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Post by Miscreative on Sept 12, 2016 10:01:12 GMT 9
we are doing a presentation+cooking class in one so this will be from like 10-2 with the presentation being about an hour long. interesting! we always just 適当 the menu based on what we feel like cooking. and everyone loves our deviled eggs and potato salad. the chili is for when we have a get together but we cant be bothered to go all out and get ham/roast whatever (so usually birthday parties and what not). we do not have a costco but there was a mention of ordering online thru Aeon online super or something similar. good call on just buying them tho (i mean really, who has ever MADE their veggie tray). it was mostly because i sensed a distinct lack of 野菜.... as for it being a lot... the potato salad and deviled eggs are really a 2 in 1 (for my family's recipe anyway) and we are going to pre boil the eggs and potatoes so all they have to do is assemble. as for the chili, i am going to make my presentation such that we cover basic stuff, mention chili, get up and make the chili, while it simmers, finish the presentation, and so on. what are your feelings on my cafe themed menu? (i also need to eventually sort out specifically which soup/sandwich to do...) orz potato is yasai though (also we at least usually have celery in our potato salad too I think)? Also chili usually has beans? And yeah, devilled eggs are super easy so that's not really a worry at all. A full hour seems long for a presentation but I guess if you work some cooking in between it's not that much.Hm, idk what to tell you for the Cafe one...it seems okay to me although maybe a bit simple? Not that that's really an issue. My classes were simple but people still enjoyed them. Cafes aren't really my thing and when I do go I usually get quiche (I'm not a huge sandwich or soup person). You could do grilled cheese and tomato soup? That's pretty classic American. my tanto suggested an hour and upon my reaction of disbelief she was like "what... you need an hour and a half??" 0n0 but. that hour also can include Q/A and discussion. and especially for the parties one, it will cover A LOT because i will be covering every holiday/get together my family experiences while hopefully covering those of other cultures in the states (give or take) is it a classic that is common at cafe tho? i mean. not like they would care and i know there are cafes that /do/ have that... but i definitely will put in on the list of ideas (right next to deli meat sandwiches and paninis) |
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Post by no yark shark on Sept 12, 2016 10:06:51 GMT 9
I just feel like if I were participating in that event I'd be like "okay, when do we get to the food part." Like learning about the food is interesting but the main reason I'd be participating is because I like cooking and eating. Also maybe it's just me but I don't like just listening to the same person talk for an hour. So I'd take care to make it as interactive as you can.
And yeah I guess it's not so much a cafe thing huh...whatever the sandwich is I feel like it should be warm.
Something that would be cool (but probably difficult) would be bread bowls but idk how you would pull that off
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Post by King Quailbee on Sept 12, 2016 10:53:28 GMT 9
Yeah, whenever I do my ABC Cooking thing, the cooking instructor usually talks about the dish for like 10-20 minutes and even that gets a bit "Can we cook now? PLEASE."
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Post by Miscreative on Sept 12, 2016 10:57:15 GMT 9
Yeah, whenever I do my ABC Cooking thing, the cooking instructor usually talks about the dish for like 10-20 minutes and even that gets a bit "Can we cook now? PLEASE." i believe(hope) we will be PRing it as a 理解講座＋cooking class. i have done the presentation part before and it was like an hour long? (i was dying by the end of it tho... so i am kinda worried about the cafe one content-wise) |
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Post by King Quailbee on Sept 12, 2016 11:01:47 GMT 9
Yeah, whenever I do my ABC Cooking thing, the cooking instructor usually talks about the dish for like 10-20 minutes and even that gets a bit "Can we cook now? PLEASE." i believe(hope) we will be PRing it as a 理解講座＋cooking class. i have done the presentation part before and it was like an hour long? (i was dying by the end of it tho... so i am kinda worried about the cafe one content-wise) そうなら, then it should be fine if you are PRing it in that way (ABC Cooking does talk about how they will explain things and whatnot, but you can tell it is a script and it gets tiresome). As long as it is interactive during the presentation (like asking questions or predictions or whatever), then it should be fine. Maybe make it 30-40 instead....?
EDIT: Or present for 20, cook for 20, present for 20, etc.
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Post by CaptainSeery on Sept 12, 2016 14:30:51 GMT 9
I would argue no more than 20 minutes for presentation... or if you HAVE to do more, split it up? Present a bit, cook one thing (or prep it), present a bit more, cook the next thing, etc etc.
I do cooking classes every month and not once have we ever presented about what we're making. As we're cooking we'll field lots of questions about the dish, when it's eaten, how common it is, etc. etc. But we don't present on it and I don't feel like we've ever been missing anything without it.
As for cafe stuff... I agree that grilled cheese and tomato soup are a classic. Other options for soups might be French onion, loaded baked potato... As for sandwiches anything off the panera menu. Paninis would be really good!
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Post by Miscreative on Sept 12, 2016 14:45:36 GMT 9
I would argue no more than 20 minutes for presentation... or if you HAVE to do more, split it up? Present a bit, cook one thing (or prep it), present a bit more, cook the next thing, etc etc. I do cooking classes every month and not once have we ever presented about what we're making. As we're cooking we'll field lots of questions about the dish, when it's eaten, how common it is, etc. etc. But we don't present on it and I don't feel like we've ever been missing anything without it. As for cafe stuff... I agree that grilled cheese and tomato soup are a classic. Other options for soups might be French onion, loaded baked potato... As for sandwiches anything off the panera menu. Paninis would be really good! depending on the thing, wouldnt that be harder to do? i mean, if what we prepped/made need to sit, that would be one thing but if we made our sandwiches and then sat back down to watch more presentation.... i dont know. i will have to warn my tanto about this then, especially for the cafe presentation because i dont think i will have any problems coming up with 60 ish min of content for the parties presentation. i mean, as long as they PR it right, i hope the people coming will expect a lecture (like last time) and cooking afterwards? this was originally going to be a 理解講座 one day, then the next week have the cooking class based on the same theme but then it spiraled down to "since its the same theme and we were going to have them come to both days, just do it all in one!" |
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Post by CaptainSeery on Sept 12, 2016 16:15:22 GMT 9
Well, I was thinking more along the lines of doing the second half while marinading some meat, or letting soup simmer, or waiting for a casserole to finish baking. Something you have to wait for anyway.
I guess if you market it as a 講座 than it should be okay.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2016 19:34:57 GMT 9
I feel like a lot of party food is also to easy-to-grab food, like frog eyes and deviled eggs. What about celery+cream cheese/celery+peanut butter (maybe even with raisins on top), aka ants-on-a-log?
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Post by no yark shark on Oct 3, 2016 15:16:46 GMT 9
So every year (well, this is only the third time actually) we have a Japanese American "Cherry Blossom Queen" visit from the states and tour our town. It was set up by my grand-pred who has some involvement in the program. Anyways we usually plan an event to go with the visit to allow the queen to interact with the locals. Last year the event fell in December (on my birthday actually) so the event was the christmas party. This year it's going to be November, and I'd like to do a cooking class. My initial idea was to cook things that Japanese Americans make to show the fusion of the two cuisines, but I haven't been able to dig up much on the internet/come up with any good ideas with the help of my Japanese American grand-pred so I was wondering if anyone had ideas?
The queen and her mother who are coming are both vegetarians which also makes things difficult (sounds like they'd be willing to at least help cook meat even if they can't eat it).
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Post by Caic on Oct 3, 2016 15:18:14 GMT 9
So every year (well, this is only the third time actually) we have a Japanese American "Cherry Blossom Queen" visit from the states and tour our town. It was set up by my grand-pred who has some involvement in the program. Anyways we usually plan an event to go with the visit to allow the queen to interact with the locals. Last year the event fell in December (on my birthday actually) so the event was the christmas party. This year it's going to be November, and I'd like to do a cooking class. My initial idea was to cook things that Japanese Americans make to show the fusion of the two cuisines, but I haven't been able to dig up much on the internet/come up with any good ideas with the help of my Japanese American grand-pred so I was wondering if anyone had ideas? The queen and her mother who are coming are both vegetarians which also makes things difficult (sounds like they'd be willing to at least help cook meat even if they can't eat it). you weren't specific so im gonna just gonna presume they are a drag queen. thats way more fun |
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Post by King Quailbee on Oct 3, 2016 15:19:55 GMT 9
Spam musubi?
Teriyaki?
These are things that my Japanese-American hulemdos would make.
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Post by no yark shark on Oct 3, 2016 15:22:58 GMT 9
Spam musubi? Teriyaki? These are things that my Japanese-American hulemdos would make. These are the things my grandpred suggested I was also thinking of Butter Mochi because I had a hulemdo in college who made it and it's DELICIOUS. But apparently it takes an hour to bake and then needs to be cooled so it might be a bit difficult... Teriyaki just seems so boring to me and they have it here, so... |
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Post by no yark shark on Oct 3, 2016 15:24:13 GMT 9
So every year (well, this is only the third time actually) we have a Japanese American "Cherry Blossom Queen" visit from the states and tour our town. It was set up by my grand-pred who has some involvement in the program. Anyways we usually plan an event to go with the visit to allow the queen to interact with the locals. Last year the event fell in December (on my birthday actually) so the event was the christmas party. This year it's going to be November, and I'd like to do a cooking class. My initial idea was to cook things that Japanese Americans make to show the fusion of the two cuisines, but I haven't been able to dig up much on the internet/come up with any good ideas with the help of my Japanese American grand-pred so I was wondering if anyone had ideas? The queen and her mother who are coming are both vegetarians which also makes things difficult (sounds like they'd be willing to at least help cook meat even if they can't eat it). you weren't specific so im gonna just gonna presume they are a drag queen. thats way more fun  |
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Post by no yark shark on Oct 3, 2016 16:25:42 GMT 9
after some thought I think I might do Thanksgiving food instead...
but I don't wanna fuck around with Turkey so I kind of just want to do side dishes but idk if that's weird (thinking of pumpkin pie, mashed potatoes, and green bean casserole)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2016 16:28:17 GMT 9
So every year (well, this is only the third time actually) we have a Japanese American "Cherry Blossom Queen" visit from the states and tour our town. It was set up by my grand-pred who has some involvement in the program. Anyways we usually plan an event to go with the visit to allow the queen to interact with the locals. Last year the event fell in December (on my birthday actually) so the event was the christmas party. This year it's going to be November, and I'd like to do a cooking class. My initial idea was to cook things that Japanese Americans make to show the fusion of the two cuisines, but I haven't been able to dig up much on the internet/come up with any good ideas with the help of my Japanese American grand-pred so I was wondering if anyone had ideas? The queen and her mother who are coming are both vegetarians which also makes things difficult (sounds like they'd be willing to at least help cook meat even if they can't eat it). I can't speak on the JA attributes but if all else fails you might be able to show a "mix" of cultures with some version of okonomiyaki? (which also doesn't usually take too long to make/cook so there's a plus) I guess just use """American""" additions along with typical toppings? Lots of cheese comes to mind...
Is there any way you/your office can contact the queen and her mother and ask if they have any favorites? If this whole event is connected to things honoring them it might be useful to have the cooking class food match their tastes as well... (beyond just vegetarian)
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