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Post by Sheepy on May 25, 2017 16:15:38 GMT 9
So like, my CO is trying a new method of purchasing the return home tickets for our JETs that are leaving in the summer.. (aka purchasing the ticket a week before the flight), and it is becoming sort of an issue.
I have a couple questions regarding the requirements of the return flight home. In addition to it between back to the same airport you flew out of, does it also have to be direct? If layovers are okay, how many and for how long are okay?
We have a new person doing it a new way, and I am just over here like "have you never purchased an international plane ticket before?", and I am trying to save my CO from blowing all this unnecessary money.
Thanks in advance!
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Post by no yark shark on May 25, 2017 16:41:50 GMT 9
Does it have to be back to the consulate we came from? I know when my office was trying to budget for me (even though I'm hopefully going to end up in Japan after all), they were looking at flights to my home airport (which is quite far from the consulate I left from).
Also I came from Nashville which definitely doesn't have direct flights to Japan (we changed in Detroit when we came) so I would think layovers would be fine.
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Post by 🎄🌰🌰Yoosting on an open 🔥🎄 on May 25, 2017 16:47:38 GMT 9
So like, my CO is trying a new method of purchasing the return home tickets for our JETs that are leaving in the summer.. (aka purchasing the ticket a week before the flight), and it is becoming sort of an issue. I have a couple questions regarding the requirements of the return flight home. In addition to it between back to the same airport you flew out of, does it also have to be direct? If layovers are okay, how many and for how long are okay? We have a new person doing it a new way, and I am just over here like "have you never purchased an international plane ticket before?", and I am trying to save my CO from blowing all this unnecessary money.Thanks in advance! Making government blow money is to be encouraged. That way the money returns to the private sector, where it belongs. [/Swanson]  |
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Post by Caic on May 25, 2017 16:51:35 GMT 9
Does it have to be back to the consulate we came from? I know when my office was trying to budget for me (even though I'm hopefully going to end up in Japan after all), they were looking at flights to my home airport (which is quite far from the consulate I left from). Also I came from Nashville which definitely doesn't have direct flights to Japan (we changed in Detroit when we came) so I would think layovers would be fine. youve been organising that shit already... maybe i should talk to soup cos i wanna avail of flight cos technically i should be able to |
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Post by no yark shark on May 25, 2017 17:02:59 GMT 9
Does it have to be back to the consulate we came from? I know when my office was trying to budget for me (even though I'm hopefully going to end up in Japan after all), they were looking at flights to my home airport (which is quite far from the consulate I left from). Also I came from Nashville which definitely doesn't have direct flights to Japan (we changed in Detroit when we came) so I would think layovers would be fine. youve been organising that しｔ already... maybe i should talk to soup cos i wanna avail of flight cos technically i should be able to Oh my office isn't getting me a ticket. This was back when I thought I was going back to the states for grad school. My contract (and maybe yours too?) says that if I enter employment within a month after finishing JET, then I don't qualify for the flight. And apparently this include signing a contract before I leave (or within that month I guess). |
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Post by CaptainSeery on May 26, 2017 8:57:30 GMT 9
I've.... spoken with my soup about it, but this is the first time for either of us to do it, so neither of us really knows what we're doing hue.
The furthest we've gotten is
soup: There is 予算 of 300,000 yen set aside for your flight
Me: That should be more than enough
soup: Great
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Post by Caic on May 26, 2017 9:03:57 GMT 9
youve been organising that しｔ already... maybe i should talk to soup cos i wanna avail of flight cos technically i should be able to Oh my office isn't getting me a ticket. This was back when I thought I was going back to the states for grad school. My contract (and maybe yours too?) says that if I enter employment within a month after finishing JET, then I don't qualify for the flight. And apparently this include signing a contract before I leave (or within that month I guess). mine just says if i dont take up employment within a month, which I amnt. I start work over a month after my contract finishes. So apparently i technically should be able to get it. ALT PA thinks so too. But haven't talked to anyone about it yet and not sure what my office is thinking. |
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Post by popchyk~ on May 26, 2017 10:06:12 GMT 9
Caic I think that's what fuwafuwa did (she had a job in Japan lined up after JET but it didn't start until a month or two afterwards so she was able to go home to the UK for a while and I *think* her CO paid for her flight)
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Post by Caic on May 26, 2017 10:12:32 GMT 9
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Post by Sheepy on May 29, 2017 8:40:50 GMT 9
So like, after a couple days of looking over a bunch of documents, various gyomu Gyomu things, and talking to peeps the verdict is as follows:
The only stipulation is that you have to fly back to the airport in which you flew out of, and it has to be a reasonable way of getting home. For example, it doesn't have to be direct, just as long as it isn't 32357304735086 hours long and/or super overpriced. My CO is taking the stance of flying everyone back home the way they came (same route including layovers and such).
The GIH says the following:
Per usual it is pretty ambiguous... but I mean hey, if your CO is like "pick whichever airport" then sweet.
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Post by 花よりお団子 on Sept 20, 2017 15:53:41 GMT 9
It's been over 3 months now, so I hope the people got sent back smoothly Sheepy Just wanted to add that it might be possible for one to fly to a different airport from the one she/he left from, if: the destination is the same country and the JET has a legit reason and best if the price is cheaper. One JET had to do that because their family moved to a different city, and though their old house was closer to airport A, now it's closer to airport B, and it was actually cheaper and more direct to get to airport B, so we let them do that. So might worth asking the higher-ups if there's ever such request.  Otherwise, the CO will need to fly them back to their "designated airport", which the JET should probably know when they fly to Japan. This can be easily done by asking the JETs immediately after their arrival in Japan.  (Or alternatively, look at their reply form) |
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Post by 𝑜𝓇𝒾𝒽𝒾𝓂𝑒 on Jan 20, 2020 9:43:59 GMT 9
Resurrecting this thread 'cause it was the only one I could see about flights back home Can we choose when our flight back home is or are we at the mercy of our CO when it comes to that? I was wondering if, since I finish in August, I would be able to stay a month or two extra due to my visa (idk how long the visa lets you stay extra so info on that'd be appreciated too) and then fly back at the end of October? I know that Reveiller did this (since he stayed with me during that time hue) but I just wanted to get as much info on it as I can (and evidence/proof if possible) before I ask my soup about it. I looked in my contract but it pretty much doesn't even mention the flight apart from which conditions you aren't entitled to it My apartment was only a two-year contract so that will probably also finish around the beginning of August (I need to check exactly when but), but cool kimono lady said I could stay at her dorms that she owns if I wanted to stay a bit after my contract finished. On the one hand, there's those exchange things in the UK in August and September that my CO wants me to help with, but on the other hand, I'm not obligated to help them with that since they refused to even extend my contract until September. Plus I don't have many days off left so if I was able to stay for an extra month or two (if I save up money) then I could possibly do some extra travelling that I wasn't able to fit in before August. My cousin was also hoping to visit but I likely won't have enough days off left to take to be able to spend her visit with her so if she could visit in August or September instead when I have no work that'd be much better for both of us. So yes, please helping! I'd like to clarify this as soon as I can =3 |
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Post by rezkei on Jan 20, 2020 10:09:35 GMT 9
Resurrecting this thread 'cause it was the only one I could see about flights back home Can we choose when our flight back home is or are we at the mercy of our CO when it comes to that? I was wondering if, since I finish in August, I would be able to stay a month or two extra due to my visa (idk how long the visa lets you stay extra so info on that'd be appreciated too) and then fly back at the end of October? I know that Reveiller did this (since he stayed with me during that time hue) but I just wanted to get as much info on it as I can (and evidence/proof if possible) before I ask my soup about it. I looked in my contract but it pretty much doesn't even mention the flight apart from which conditions you aren't entitled to it My apartment was only a two-year contract so that will probably also finish around the beginning of August (I need to check exactly when but), but cool kimono lady said I could stay at her dorms that she owns if I wanted to stay a bit after my contract finished. On the one hand, there's those exchange things in the UK in August and September that my CO wants me to help with, but on the other hand, I'm not obligated to help them with that since they refused to even extend my contract until September. Plus I don't have many days off left so if I was able to stay for an extra month or two (if I save up money) then I could possibly do some extra travelling that I wasn't able to fit in before August. My cousin was also hoping to visit but I likely won't have enough days off left to take to be able to spend her visit with her so if she could visit in August or September instead when I have no work that'd be much better for both of us. So yes, please helping! I'd like to clarify this as soon as I can =3 You can choose when, but I believe it has to be within 1 month of the end of your contract to get the reimbursement. |
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Post by Sparkles on Jan 20, 2020 10:16:19 GMT 9
Resurrecting this thread 'cause it was the only one I could see about flights back home Can we choose when our flight back home is or are we at the mercy of our CO when it comes to that? I was wondering if, since I finish in August, I would be able to stay a month or two extra due to my visa (idk how long the visa lets you stay extra so info on that'd be appreciated too) and then fly back at the end of October? I know that Reveiller did this (since he stayed with me during that time hue) but I just wanted to get as much info on it as I can (and evidence/proof if possible) before I ask my soup about it. I looked in my contract but it pretty much doesn't even mention the flight apart from which conditions you aren't entitled to it My apartment was only a two-year contract so that will probably also finish around the beginning of August (I need to check exactly when but), but cool kimono lady said I could stay at her dorms that she owns if I wanted to stay a bit after my contract finished. On the one hand, there's those exchange things in the UK in August and September that my CO wants me to help with, but on the other hand, I'm not obligated to help them with that since they refused to even extend my contract until September. Plus I don't have many days off left so if I was able to stay for an extra month or two (if I save up money) then I could possibly do some extra travelling that I wasn't able to fit in before August. My cousin was also hoping to visit but I likely won't have enough days off left to take to be able to spend her visit with her so if she could visit in August or September instead when I have no work that'd be much better for both of us. So yes, please helping! I'd like to clarify this as soon as I can =3 based on when I was a PA*, here we go: *my knowledge is 2 years old, please checking with the latest info
Can we choose when our flight back home is or are we at the mercy of our CO when it comes to that?
Depends on your CO -- whether their regulations/rules require THEM to purchase the ticket on your behalf (through a travel agent) or whether they're willing to let you get the flight whenever and refund you, with anything in between (i.e. you get to choose the flight SUBJECT TO THEIR APPROVAL PRE-PURCHASE). Generally most COs are flexible with dates. Usually, however, this date must be within 1 month of your contract's end date, which would put you at the beginning of September for a CO-funded return (and after that, it could be on your own dime). If this is not specified in your contract, though, and your CO is willing to do it, I don't know of any CO-specific rule against it (C.LAIR guidelines may be another story but at the end of the day your CO has way more power over you than C.LAIR does/their ruling would most likely overrule C.LAIR's).
(idk how long the visa lets you stay extra so info on that'd be appreciated too) If your status of residence is valid, which if you got the standard three years and you're approaching the end of your second year, it should be (but CHECK THE EXPIRATION DATE ON YOUR ZAIRYUU CARD just in case), you have 90 days after the final day of your contract in the green zone. After that, since you wouldn't be working, you'd be in the gray zone (legally living in Japan based on your card but not working, which is what your status is for). You also have the option of changing to a tourist visa/status of residence (aka Temporary Visitor) right after your work ends -- this has pros and cons. Pros: you are no longer beholden to residence taxes, etc. for the extra month or two you stay. Cons: you no longer have a Japan ID and must use your passport which can be tricky if you are still doing things like paying rent or using services for residents.
there's those exchange things in the UK in August and September that my CO wants me to help with, but on the other hand, I'm not obligated to help them with that since they refused to even extend my contract until September You're leaving the country anyway (gotta live it up while you're still here) and they wouldn't be paying you, so: DON'T DO IT!! If they refused to extend your contract, they've dug their own grave. I know a lot of people who've stayed that extra month thanks to savings to do fun tourist stuff otherwise enjoy a short period of "funemployment," so if you're thinking of staying some extra time, DO NOT WORK FOR ZERO PAY, just live your best life.
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Post by 𝑜𝓇𝒾𝒽𝒾𝓂𝑒 on Jan 20, 2020 10:23:12 GMT 9
Resurrecting this thread 'cause it was the only one I could see about flights back home Can we choose when our flight back home is or are we at the mercy of our CO when it comes to that? I was wondering if, since I finish in August, I would be able to stay a month or two extra due to my visa (idk how long the visa lets you stay extra so info on that'd be appreciated too) and then fly back at the end of October? I know that Reveiller did this (since he stayed with me during that time hue) but I just wanted to get as much info on it as I can (and evidence/proof if possible) before I ask my soup about it. I looked in my contract but it pretty much doesn't even mention the flight apart from which conditions you aren't entitled to it My apartment was only a two-year contract so that will probably also finish around the beginning of August (I need to check exactly when but), but cool kimono lady said I could stay at her dorms that she owns if I wanted to stay a bit after my contract finished. On the one hand, there's those exchange things in the UK in August and September that my CO wants me to help with, but on the other hand, I'm not obligated to help them with that since they refused to even extend my contract until September. Plus I don't have many days off left so if I was able to stay for an extra month or two (if I save up money) then I could possibly do some extra travelling that I wasn't able to fit in before August. My cousin was also hoping to visit but I likely won't have enough days off left to take to be able to spend her visit with her so if she could visit in August or September instead when I have no work that'd be much better for both of us. So yes, please helping! I'd like to clarify this as soon as I can =3 based on when I was a PA*, here we go: *my knowledge is 2 years old, please checking with the latest info
Can we choose when our flight back home is or are we at the mercy of our CO when it comes to that?
Depends on your CO -- whether their regulations/rules require THEM to purchase the ticket on your behalf (through a travel agent) or whether they're willing to let you get the flight whenever and refund you, with anything in between (i.e. you get to choose the flight SUBJECT TO THEIR APPROVAL PRE-PURCHASE). Generally most COs are flexible with dates. Usually, however, this date must be within 1 month of your contract's end date, which would put you at the beginning of September for a CO-funded return (and after that, it could be on your own dime). If this is not specified in your contract, though, and your CO is willing to do it, I don't know of any CO-specific rule against it (C.LAIR guidelines may be another story but at the end of the day your CO has way more power over you than C.LAIR does/their ruling would most likely overrule C.LAIR's).
(idk how long the visa lets you stay extra so info on that'd be appreciated too) If your status of residence is valid, which if you got the standard three years and you're approaching the end of your second year, it should be (but CHECK THE EXPIRATION DATE ON YOUR ZAIRYUU CARD just in case), you have 90 days after the final day of your contract in the green zone. After that, since you wouldn't be working, you'd be in the gray zone (legally living in Japan based on your card but not working, which is what your status is for). You also have the option of changing to a tourist visa/status of residence (aka Temporary Visitor) right after your work ends -- this has pros and cons. Pros: you are no longer beholden to residence taxes, etc. for the extra month or two you stay. Cons: you no longer have a Japan ID and must use your passport which can be tricky if you are still doing things like paying rent or using services for residents.
there's those exchange things in the UK in August and September that my CO wants me to help with, but on the other hand, I'm not obligated to help them with that since they refused to even extend my contract until September You're leaving the country anyway (gotta live it up while you're still here) and they wouldn't be paying you, so: DON'T DO IT!! If they refused to extend your contract, they've dug their own grave. I know a lot of people who've stayed that extra month thanks to savings to do fun tourist stuff otherwise enjoy a short period of "funemployment," so if you're thinking of staying some extra time, DO NOT WORK FOR ZERO PAY, just live your best life.
SASUGA, thank you for the detailed info!
Regarding the things my CO wanted me to help with, they did say it would be paid (soup said it'd be like a summer/part time job kind of thing) but I've received no set info yet so if I sort out flights before they sort that out then there's no ginger for them XD
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Post by Sparkles on Jan 20, 2020 10:31:45 GMT 9
𝑜𝓇𝒾𝒽𝒾𝓂𝑒 ok at least they'd be paying you! that's a somewhat different story, then, but if they don't sort out their stuff, well, they'll just find themselves with no ginger. even if they'd be paying you, I think you wouldn't be getting benefits (best to check this too), which reminded me of one last thing that could be relevant to you: you will NOT have Japanese health insurance after your final day of your JET contract, so if you regularly get meds or see a doc here, you'll need to keep that in mind. you may also want to consider purchasing travel insurance or something for the period you'll be here but not covered. I think JET insurance -- there is still JET insurance, right?? -- still applies for some period after your contract ends, though, so keep a hold of that policy and go over it before your contracts ends to confirm/just in case.
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Post by 𝑜𝓇𝒾𝒽𝒾𝓂𝑒 on Jan 20, 2020 10:34:04 GMT 9
Sparkles yeah exactly XD Oh right, thank you for the heads up! I think my dad got me travel insurance so I might be okay, but it may have just been for my flights so I'll check. I'll have a look at the JET insurance info as well if I can find it
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Post by 𝑜𝓇𝒾𝒽𝒾𝓂𝑒 on Jan 20, 2020 13:41:32 GMT 9
Update: I just asked soup about the flight thing and she checked with not-soup and said that I can choose my flight date up to a month after I finish (and I finally got to know what date I finish too) so yeah seems like I can stay til early September! ^^
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Post by Dee on Jan 20, 2020 13:42:25 GMT 9
SASUGA, thank you for the detailed info!
Regarding the things my CO wanted me to help with, they did say it would be paid (soup said it'd be like a summer/part time job kind of thing) but I've received no set info yet so if I sort out flights before they sort that out then there's no ginger for them XD
Just be careful with this. My contract also states that if I enter into another contract with an entity in Japan within 30 days after my JET contract ends, my CO is no longer required to buy my return flight. |
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Post by 𝑜𝓇𝒾𝒽𝒾𝓂𝑒 on Jan 20, 2020 13:46:05 GMT 9
SASUGA, thank you for the detailed info!
Regarding the things my CO wanted me to help with, they did say it would be paid (soup said it'd be like a summer/part time job kind of thing) but I've received no set info yet so if I sort out flights before they sort that out then there's no ginger for them XD
Just be careful with this. My contract also states that if I enter into another contract with an entity in Japan within 30 days after my JET contract ends, my CO is no longer required to buy my return flight. Oh yeah, I'm not staying in Japan for job purposes anyway, and I'm planning to take a little break before applying for any jobs back home, so I should be fine with that =3
I guess it does mean that I won't be able to sign a contract to help my CO with that exchange thing unless they send me the contract after I get back hoho~
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Post by Shimanchu 2024 on Jan 24, 2020 2:34:28 GMT 9
Yeah I was able to stay in Japan a little while after I ended to spend time with hulemdos and family.
We went to Legoland and Tokyo Disney/Disney Sea : D
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Post by 𝑜𝓇𝒾𝒽𝒾𝓂𝑒 on Jan 24, 2020 9:33:31 GMT 9
I always forget there's a Legoland in Japan XD
I have yet to go to either Disney (or any Disney at all TTwTT) so I could maybe use this extra month to do that TwT
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Post by thelatter on Jan 24, 2020 9:35:01 GMT 9
I always forget there's a Legoland in Japan XDI have yet to go to either Disney (or any Disney at all TTwTT) so I could maybe use this extra month to do that TwT That's because it's so JIMI.  Barely a proper amusement park, certainly not one for a company as big as Lego. |
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Post by 𝑜𝓇𝒾𝒽𝒾𝓂𝑒 on Jan 24, 2020 9:36:48 GMT 9
I always forget there's a Legoland in Japan XDI have yet to go to either Disney (or any Disney at all TTwTT) so I could maybe use this extra month to do that TwT That's because it's so JIMI. Barely a proper amusement park, certainly not one for a company as big as Lego. Oh wow, really? I've never been to a Legoland either so I wouldn't really know what to expect but the one back home always looked pretty good
My year abroad bestie's ex-bf (who was a geoduck) works there so that's another thing for her to feel good about XD
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Post by Shimanchu 2024 on Jan 24, 2020 9:50:22 GMT 9
I mean....
It's mostly for small children.... (even more than Disney I mean)
Sorry I gotta defend it. Love Knowledge whut whut
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Post by Hokuto on Feb 20, 2020 10:25:34 GMT 9
SASUGA, thank you for the detailed info!
Regarding the things my CO wanted me to help with, they did say it would be paid (soup said it'd be like a summer/part time job kind of thing) but I've received no set info yet so if I sort out flights before they sort that out then there's no ginger for them XD
Just be careful with this. My contract also states that if I enter into another contract with an entity in Japan within 30 days after my JET contract ends, my CO is no longer required to buy my return flight. i would of course NEVER suggest that a CIR do this but if they don't know you've entered into a contract, you can still get the flight however, best practice would be to find a job that would let you start more than a month after JET, so you still get the flight home, and have a job this is what i did, and my CO had me buy the flight, so i was able to do some stuff that was maybe shady and essentially return my one-way flight and get a round-trip flight for cheaper than the original one-way |
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Post by Miscreative on May 25, 2022 13:28:13 GMT 9
reviving this thread as my time has finally come as many have mentioned before the requirements are as follows -have to leave between the day after the contract is up and 1 month after -cannot have a job in japan within 30 days after the contract is up -the flight will be "reasonable" (not too many long layovers, etc) -i will find the flight and they will take that to the GYOSHA to buy it -they are supposed to send me back to the airport i left from* *this is one i am trying to SMACKDOWN. tldr: are there any other examples of people getting flights to a different airport? my circumstances are thus. i flew out of airport A. hulemdo lives near airport B. B is slightly an hours drive closer to hometown (both have flights to hometown and each other). hulemdo has the space and resources to put me up and lend me a car so i can go to hometown and have a car while im in the US. my family would gladly pick me up from A (but i dont know if i would have a car and rental cars are expensive... not to mention hulemdo has held onto this car for me for over 6 months). comparing flights, they are about the same price and logistics (some for B are cheaper but overall A is cheaper by merely thousands of yennies)
i'm really splitting hairs here because in the end getting home shouldnt be terrible. plus I know i am already lucky that they are even still going to buy me a ticket considering i have a spousal visa and they know that and know i will be returning to japan.
i also know i am being a selfish brat and causing MEIWAK but i cant drop it because as long as we all agree to it, i dont see why i cant choose a different airport if it is within budget
EDIT i contacted CL.AIR and they impressed that it is up to the CO both if they go beyond the basic requirement, and how they provide the ticket (cash vs buy ticket)
2nd edit.
i dont want to jinx myself but jet tanto said that we can send me to my preferred airport!
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