Marimoooo
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CIR Experience: Incoming CIR
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Post by Marimoooo on Apr 20, 2018 4:50:08 GMT 9
Hey guys, so I'm not sure whether this has been discussed in the forums or not, but since I couldn't see it in the 'Future CIRs' section I thought I might as well make a thread.
Past/current CIRs, what has your experience with your first day of work been like?
Also (because I saw it asked on the 'Incoming JETs' FB page but all the answers seemed to be from ALTs D:<), when was your first day of actually doing work? Did you get a few days to bum around and explore your new surroundings/get your furniture situation sorted etc like the ALTs did, or was it straight into office life from day 1 or 2?
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Post by hohoEMIsen on Apr 20, 2018 7:48:40 GMT 9
Hey guys, so I'm not sure whether this has been discussed in the forums or not, but since I couldn't see it in the 'Future CIRs' section I thought I might as well make a thread. Past/current CIRs, what has your experience with your first day of work been like? Also (because I saw it asked on the 'Incoming JETs' FB page but all the answers seemed to be from ALTs D:<), when was your first day of actually doing work? Did you get a few days to bum around and explore your new surroundings/get your furniture situation sorted etc like the ALTs did, or was it straight into office life from day 1 or 2? On the very first first day, just after arriving into my prefecture, it was more of a settling in day, where my supervisor would bring me to my apartment, help me carry things up, and introduce me to the office and my colleagues. The very next day was my first official day at work. I didn't have work to do, so I started out by reading guidebooks about my prefecture. It's good to get as much knowledge about your prefecture as you can at the start when you are most probably relatively free. A while later, one of my colleague came over to ask me to check some emails. Note that I wasn't able to connect to the Internet then, as I didn't have any login user and password - that means no グーグル先生D: Had lunch with my other CIR colleagues and then placed my suit on to receive my formal appointment of personnel letter from the governor. Of course reporters from NHK came down as well. I didn't have a TV then so I couldn't see the finished product, but a couple of people said that they saw me on TV hue. Time passed by quite quickly as I was trying to settle in. I was able to get my username and password for my Internet before the day ended too. Chief promised me that I would get my name stamp and bank account on the next day. Feel free to check out my blog gaiyaba.wordpress.com/ for more info on my first few days at work. There's an archive of all my posts in the menu bar too. PM me for the password for certain posts.  |
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Post by Aya Raincoat on Apr 20, 2018 9:28:36 GMT 9
I don't have a blog, so my memory is not as clear, but we got in by Shink and had the ALTs' welcoming ceremony, then I went to my apartment to sign papers. My apartment was furnished (and full of pred stuff), so I didn't have to o anything regarding that. I feel like the next day was spent opening a bank account, registering at the city, getting a train pass, etc. It's a whirlwind. On the Friday, we had my prefecture's Survival Orientation (it covers things like trains, banking, cleaning Japanese apartment, health, etc.) I eventually met all the ELAI people, too, although there was no TV crew.
My pred was still around during the first few days, so she helped me a bunch, as did my soup and my sempai Brazilian CIR.
I'm not sure what I did the next Monday, but I know I turned in my first translation (French to Japanese) on Tuesday, so proper work likely started on the Monday.
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Mumblesnore
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CIR Experience: Former CIR
Location: Tokyo
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Post by Mumblesnore on Apr 20, 2018 10:01:32 GMT 9
I had to translate three official letters from our mayor into English on my first full day hue
(The day before that was just a half day full of 挨拶回り and getting settled in and making a field trip to the local bank and inkan store)
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Post by Psychic Pug on Apr 20, 2018 10:19:20 GMT 9
When we arrived to my placement from Tokyo we spent the whole day taking care of my residence card, bank (I remember we got there 5 mins before closing), aisatsus etc. Started work immediately the next day. The new ALTs were also group B so it was just me and soup at orientation (I rememeber at orientation it was me and my super talking in a corner). They had a few weeks of gorogoro before school started (I also remember leaving for work and randomly meeting one of the alts in my mansion in pjs checking her postbox.)
Overlapped with my pred so she showed me the ins and outs herself. Not sure if she knows this but when she was explaining stuff to me, jetlagged me was sitting behind her and dozing off heehee.
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Post by Hokuto on Apr 20, 2018 13:26:41 GMT 9
When we arrived to my placement from Tokyo we spent the whole day taking care of my residence card, bank (I remember we got there 5 mins before closing), aisatsus etc. Started work immediately the next day. The new ALTs were also group B so it was just me and soup at orientation (I rememeber at orientation it was me and my super talking in a corner). They had a few weeks of gorogoro before school started (I also remember leaving for work and randomly meeting one of the alts in my mansion in pjs checking her postbox.) Overlapped with my pred so she showed me the ins and outs herself. Not sure if she knows this but when she was explaining stuff to me, jetlagged me was sitting behind her and dozing off heehee. |
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Mumblesnore
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Post by Mumblesnore on Apr 20, 2018 13:29:12 GMT 9
LMAO Hokuto is here for the drama mama.
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Post by Psychic Pug on Apr 20, 2018 13:44:06 GMT 9
Senpai loves me
S͖͚̞̻̥e̤̬̭̜͔n̬̝͍̫p̗̰̞̬̠a̝̮̬̲͙ͅi̜͓̲̱̮͖ ͈̻l̯̗͙̹̼̳ọv̥̣e̪̬̟̖̩̝̼s͈̰̻ ̙̰̖̭̜̮̣m̲̤͙e͓̝͔
Ṣ̮̗̯̬̪̳̲e̲͕̦͈͉̦̙n͈̭͎̺̳͙̭͓̘p̝͓̭͎̗̞a̞̪͎̮̰͍͇̙i̗̖ͅ ̻͈̘̻̜l̬͎̫̝͈̻̫o̙͇̘v̯̲̬̱̻e͕̰s̲̺͓͖̯̯̰̫ ͕̥̪̮̰m͖̦ḙ͇̟͔̞̰̠̜͚
S͎̗̤͈̱̼͕̥̗e̙̬̣̝͈͈̤ͅn̩͕̭p̣̠̻̼̻̱ͅa̰̭̩͍̲̘̝͓͙i͙̝̪͕ ̗͈̳̱͕̦̠l̯̙̰͇̬o̱͇̘͉ͅͅv̖̲̖ẹ̫̤̰̯s͓̭͕̱̙̖͉̮ ͕̫̣͚̹ṃ̫̞̤e͈
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Post by Hokuto on Apr 20, 2018 13:48:51 GMT 9
LMAO Hokuto is here for the drama mama. r u tryna compare to The Vixen?!? |
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Post by Ividia on Apr 20, 2018 13:58:26 GMT 9
Senpai loves me S͖͚̞̻̥e̤̬̭̜͔n̬̝͍̫p̗̰̞̬̠a̝̮̬̲͙ͅi̜͓̲̱̮͖ ͈̻l̯̗͙̹̼̳ọv̥̣e̪̬̟̖̩̝̼s͈̰̻ ̙̰̖̭̜̮̣m̲̤͙e͓̝͔ Ṣ̮̗̯̬̪̳̲e̲͕̦͈͉̦̙n͈̭͎̺̳͙̭͓̘p̝͓̭͎̗̞a̞̪͎̮̰͍͇̙i̗̖ͅ ̻͈̘̻̜l̬͎̫̝͈̻̫o̙͇̘v̯̲̬̱̻e͕̰s̲̺͓͖̯̯̰̫ ͕̥̪̮̰m͖̦ḙ͇̟͔̞̰̠̜͚ S͎̗̤͈̱̼͕̥̗e̙̬̣̝͈͈̤ͅn̩͕̭p̣̠̻̼̻̱ͅa̰̭̩͍̲̘̝͓͙i͙̝̪͕ ̗͈̳̱͕̦̠l̯̙̰͇̬o̱͇̘͉ͅͅv̖̲̖ẹ̫̤̰̯s͓̭͕̱̙̖͉̮ ͕̫̣͚̹ṃ̫̞̤e͈ it Tru (^_-)-☆ |
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Mumblesnore
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Post by Mumblesnore on Apr 20, 2018 13:58:49 GMT 9
LMAO Hokuto is here for the drama mama. r u tryna compare to The Vixen?!? If the size 13 high heel fits... |
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Post by Miscreative on Apr 20, 2018 15:28:15 GMT 9
i came on group C but my first week was perfect imo
i arrived on weds. thurs was orientation. friday my super picked me up and took me to our office. we rode the shink (~2 hours) and we even sat in different areas (i was actually very okay with this. i didnt know hue still dont know how to talk with her so i was grateful for the quiet as i as still very jetlagged)
we arrived to the office in the afternoon, my stuff had been taken to my apartment already so we started with getting a bank account set up and registering my address
then we had a meeting with the mayor (i work at the city office and interpret for him all the time) and i didnt remember/know that that was happening that day so i was not in my best (not worst either) clothes (ie cardigan instead of suit)
after that awful "courtesy call" (that was written about in the paper x.x) we did some of the AISASTU
but as we only had until 5 we could only do so much. we completed the rest of the AISATSU the monday after.
this also meant i had the weekend to veg out, sleep, get settled, and prepare for monday which again was a lot of AISATSU and... tour of the office? and maaaaybe intro to my first translation request?
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Post by Dee on Apr 20, 2018 15:55:38 GMT 9
I wrote quite a bit about my first couple of weeks in my blog. BlogI was in group A, and arrived at my location Wednesday evening. Luggage had already been delivered to our apartment, but it wasn't quite furnished all the way. Ran around that evening to the local supermarket and drug store to pick up a bunch of stuff then crashed for the night. The next couple of days was a blur of setting up bank accounts, getting all of my bills set up for direct deposit, cellphones, shopping, 挨拶回り. Since my boss at the tourism office was on a business trip that first week, and the kindergarten was on summer break I sat in the BOE at an empty desk for a whole week without any real work to do. So I did my best to research my area, learn more about Hokkaido and my geopark, and study Japanese. I did get one request to translate an email. The second week, I believe, I finally started working my regular schedule. |
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Marimoooo
Straight outta Narita
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CIR Experience: Incoming CIR
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Post by Marimoooo on Apr 21, 2018 6:51:28 GMT 9
Thanks for the responses everyone, it's super helpful! Also wow, I guess from the looks of it we don't get much downtime upon arrival after all then. hohoEMIsen and Dee, I've actually browsed the CIR related posts on your blogs before, it's quite informative. Also, I admire your dedication for being able to post regularly, especially during those first few days when you must have so much on your plate. |
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Post by hohoEMIsen on Apr 22, 2018 22:42:27 GMT 9
Marimoooo haha, thank you! A lot of the dedication stems from the lack of CIR blogs around. I wanted to contribute ^^
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Post by Dee on Apr 23, 2018 13:24:35 GMT 9
Glad you found it informtive.
I also wanted to contribute since there's so little info about CIRs out there
EDIT: Plus I have hulemdos and family that don't use facebook or other social media platforms, so it's easy for them to stay in touch thru a blog. |
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Post by Cantamen on Apr 23, 2018 14:24:07 GMT 9
I got to Long Fields around noon on Thursday, and I spent the afternoon with my soup opening up a bank account and registering my adress on my Zairyuu card. In the evening I stayed at a hostel because my pred hadn't moved out yet and I had no monnies for a hotel because of the appartment deposit and key money.
Next day work people drove me around to buy stuff for the appartment, like curtains and a futon. It was mostly furnished though, with stuff like kotatsu, couch, fridge, rice cooker, and dresser already there. They also brought me a brand new washing machine and set it up for me. They also took me out to lunch, and I had the world's biggest omurice that I just could not finish. It was good though, haha.
I had the weekend to myself, then on Monday I had my first official day at work. They explained all my various passwords and then I was good to go. I didn't get any work to do untill September though! It was a whole, boring month of nothing! But unlike the ALTs, I still had to go in to work. There's a thread in the conference room section called "what to do when you're bored" or something that really helped me out. I ended up really slowly making a ppt about my hometown and state.
I also had a really terrible appartment-getting experience, which can be summed up as BRING CASH (even if you need to pay 10man+ upfront like I did!) because debit and credit are both unnaceptable ways to pay for appartment contracts.
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Post by TrickPhoenix on Apr 23, 2018 15:52:31 GMT 9
Hmmm I feel like I had a much slower start than most people here
On the first day I arrived my soup picked up all the ALTs, other CIR, and me from the station, dropped the ALTs off at the BOE, took me to my apartment and then to a few home goods stores and the supermarket to get me some essentials, and then he just took me back and left me to rest. Never even saw my office that day.
He picked me up and took me to my office the next day to aisatsu around for a bit, but honestly almost my entire first week was just being taken sightseeing all over the area, every single day, barely sitting at my desk.
So I don't think I even started "work" until about a week in. And even then, I was digging around the city website looking for my own stuff to translate, since I was their first CIR and they weren't quiiite sure what to do with me yet.
~Every situation is different~, etc.
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Post by kiseki on May 31, 2018 10:40:22 GMT 9
Hey so, I'm not sure where to put this so I'll just ask it here. Uhhh, for people who are already working I was wondering what the age distribution is like in your office. For people who are in their 20s, are you the youngest person amongst your co-workers? Or is there a pretty good distribution of older and younger people?
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akatsuki
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CIR Experience: 1st year
Location: Yamagata
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Post by akatsuki on May 31, 2018 10:51:05 GMT 9
Hey so, I'm not sure where to put this so I'll just ask it here. Uhhh, for people who are already working I was wondering what the age distribution is like in your office. For people who are in their 20s, are you the youngest person amongst your co-workers? Or is there a pretty good distribution of older and younger people? I'm 22 and I'm the youngest. I get treated like a little sister or a daughter. There's another girl in her late 20s and everyone else is 30+. |
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Post by kiseki on May 31, 2018 10:56:13 GMT 9
Thanks for answering!! Does that little sister treatment get tiring? I'm 23 right now but I'll be 24 before I start working. I'm kind of worried that I won't be taken seriously if people are much older than I am. I'm already a little brother, and though it's chill, I'd rather not be treated like that at work. Hey so, I'm not sure where to put this so I'll just ask it here. Uhhh, for people who are already working I was wondering what the age distribution is like in your office. For people who are in their 20s, are you the youngest person amongst your co-workers? Or is there a pretty good distribution of older and younger people? I'm 22 and I'm the youngest. I get treated like a little sister or a daughter. There's another girl in her late 20s and everyone else is 30+. |
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Mumblesnore
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Post by Mumblesnore on May 31, 2018 11:04:29 GMT 9
I'm 26 and I'm still the youngest.
The second youngest is 28 and then there's a pretty big gap and I'm pretty sure everyone else in in their 40s or higher.
I definitely get treated differently (not in a bad way) but it's hard to differentiate between what is because I'm the youngest and what is because I'm the only foreigner.
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akatsuki
Straight outta Narita
Posts: 46
CIR Experience: 1st year
Location: Yamagata
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Post by akatsuki on May 31, 2018 11:05:59 GMT 9
Thanks for answering!! Does that little sister treatment get tiring? I'm 23 right now but I'll be 24 before I start working. I'm kind of worried that I won't be taken seriously if people are much older than I am. I'm already a little brother, and though it's chill, I'd rather not be treated like that at work. I'm 22 and I'm the youngest. I get treated like a little sister or a daughter. There's another girl in her late 20s and everyone else is 30+. Not really you know. They're all super sweet and willing to help me with any and everything. As much as we joke around about me being a little sister/daughter, they know that I am capable and they don't hesitate to assign tasks nor do they assume I can't do something just because I am so much younger than them. If I say that I don't understand something or that I need help with something, they don't think any less of me for it. I think it has a lot to do with how you present yourself. If you can prove your capabilities from the start then most of the time, they will take you seriously. I guess if you get stuck with someone still stuck in showa era who thinks that age is directly linked to capability then you may have some issues. |
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Post by kiseki on May 31, 2018 11:12:16 GMT 9
Oh okay, that's a relief! Thank you for your input! That makes me feel more calm about working in such a different environment. Thanks for answering!! Does that little sister treatment get tiring? I'm 23 right now but I'll be 24 before I start working. I'm kind of worried that I won't be taken seriously if people are much older than I am. I'm already a little brother, and though it's chill, I'd rather not be treated like that at work. Not really you know. They're all super sweet and willing to help me with any and everything. As much as we joke around about me being a little sister/daughter, they know that I am capable and they don't hesitate to assign tasks nor do they assume I can't do something just because I am so much younger than them. If I say that I don't understand something or that I need help with something, they don't think any less of me for it. I think it has a lot to do with how you present yourself. If you can prove your capabilities from the start then most of the time, they will take you seriously. I guess if you get stuck with someone still stuck in showa era who thinks that age is directly linked to capability then you may have some issues. |
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Post by ❄icepath❄ on May 31, 2018 11:43:42 GMT 9
I am in an inaka which has different implications than it usually does.
See I went in thinking I'd be the youngest coz how much younger can you get if you've spent years in uni?
Turns out, there's a guy who's 20 there. How? Simple: he's never been to uni, but because we're an inaka, they tend to hire people based on "DO YOU HAVE RELATIONS ON THIS ISLAND" rather than "DO YOU HAVE A DEGREE," and he's a full-fledged islander. This is a government job so I was super shocked to find out you didn't need a degree to find a job like this.
Editing because I sound like some elitist trash. I don't think a degree proves capability, but because of their hiring system (locals before actually capable people) I can't help but be suspicious of whether the guy is actually capable or if he got in even without qualifications because he's some dude's son.
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Mumblesnore
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Post by Mumblesnore on May 31, 2018 11:47:17 GMT 9
I am in an inaka which has different implications than it usually does. See I went in thinking I'd be the youngest coz how much younger can you get if you've spent years in uni? Turns out, there's a guy who's 20 there. How? Simple: he's never been to uni, but because we're an inaka, they tend to hire people based on "DO YOU HAVE RELATIONS ON THIS ISLAND" rather than "DO YOU HAVE A DEGREE," and he's a full-fledged islander. This is a government job so I was super shocked to find out you didn't need a degree to find a job like this. Editing because I sound like some elitist trash. I don't think a degree proves capability, but because of their hiring system (locals before actually capable people) I can't help but be suspicious of whether the guy is actually capable or if he got in even without qualifications because he's some dude's son. My town's mayor didn't even go to college. |
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Post by Leilo on May 31, 2018 11:55:11 GMT 9
Last year I interned with a state agency where most people are able to retire within 5 years or so.
There were times like where I was in a meeting and someone just stared at me then paused me and asked "sorry, wait, just how old are you??". Or telling someone I was an intern then them replying "Oh, no wonder you looked around the same age as my grand daughter!"
hue ;;
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Post by ❄icepath❄ on May 31, 2018 11:55:13 GMT 9
I am in an inaka which has different implications than it usually does. See I went in thinking I'd be the youngest coz how much younger can you get if you've spent years in uni? Turns out, there's a guy who's 20 there. How? Simple: he's never been to uni, but because we're an inaka, they tend to hire people based on "DO YOU HAVE RELATIONS ON THIS ISLAND" rather than "DO YOU HAVE A DEGREE," and he's a full-fledged islander. This is a government job so I was super shocked to find out you didn't need a degree to find a job like this. Editing because I sound like some elitist trash. I don't think a degree proves capability, but because of their hiring system (locals before actually capable people) I can't help but be suspicious of whether the guy is actually capable or if he got in even without qualifications because he's some dude's son. My town's mayor didn't even go to college. I'm positive mine didn't either. In fact I don't even know how many people in the office have even ever gone to uni... |
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Post by Sparkles on May 31, 2018 16:30:08 GMT 9
My マイファーストデー as a CIR:
・wake up at some ungodly hour, gather with the ALTs in the designated room at the KEIOH PULAZA HOTELU
・take bus ride to COLORFUL JEWELS while practicing my welcome ceremony AISATS under my breath
・arrive and get a mini-orientation with the ALTs while sweating to death
・participate in welcome ceremony, including AISATS as the SYINKI JET DAIHYOH (I was chosen on the sole reason that as a CIR it would be guaranteed that I could do bilingual AISATS), manage to hide shaking knees behind podium
・take a group photo outside, get approx. 3 mosquito bites
・walk 10-15 min to my office, keep dying of heat (I am unfortunately one of the most ATUGALIYA people I know; I can handle cold temps JUST FINE, bring it on, winter, but I die every summer)
・eat lunch with coworkers (PIZZA!), be super nervous
・start work IMMEDIATELY, like from 13:00-17:15 with pred and Former Fellow CIR because prefectural orientation is in, like, two weeks and it's already crunch time, despite my haze of jetlag/general (heat) exhaustion
・(proceed to work intensely for the two days after that with small breaks to WALK with supervisor to the bank, city hall, etc to do paperwork in like 30C+/85+% humidity weather conditions, which honestly just exhausted me even more lmao)
・get roped into AISATS MAWALI with my pred doing goodbyes and me hellos, which is a truly frantic affair bc we have to get back to the office to do more Group B and ori prep
・get walked to cheap/ancient hotel (that, unbeknownst to me at the time, I get billed for later LMAO the salt still lingers) because pred still hasn't moved out of the apt
・attempt to figure out ancient aircon settings, fail, suffer/feel overwhelmed bc HEAT/humidity
・wonder wtf I am doing here
・cry
tl;dr I thought I would not survive -- BUT it got better and I loved like >80% of my time as a CIR!! the moral of the story: even if you first few days or weeks make you lowkey want to die, there is a significant possibility things will get a lot better and that you'll end up staying for 5 yearsAlso re: age.... I had my birthday about two or three weeks after I arrived, turning the ripe young age of NIZYUUISSAI so I was by far the youngest in my office, except for the one new uni grad who'd started that April who I think was 23. The next year we got another 23-year-old uni grad. (It worked out that the other CIRs at the KEMTYOU, whether in the BOE or my office, were all older than I was. But they were definitely closer to me in age than most of my Japanese coworkers! I will freely admit, though, that the presence of other CIRs near me, including one in my own office, was important in terms of me not feeling isolated by my age, so ymmv depending on placement.) And then in my fifth/final year we got ANOTHER fresh uni grad who was also like 23 PLUS Raulsen in the next building over so I was FINALLY not the youngest one in my office anymore!! hue (and now in my new job I am by far the youngest person in my department again hue -- but there are young people around elsewhere who I haven't met yet so...?)In some situations it helped to be the youngest person because people didn't blame me for my ignorance and wanted to help me. I definitely was adopted as a daughter-like figure to a lot of people in my office, so they'd do things like ask if I needed anything or give me extra omiyage, heheh~, and sometimes they even gave me some Real Talk when I needed to do better. (And they were invested in my personal/professional growth and were proud of me when I learned new skills and eventually got ~a jerb~. I really liked that family feeling and I feel super lucky my office was so supportive of me.) I wasn't condescended to, which helped, even though I sometimes chafed at phrases like "ah, it's because you're so young...." Honestly, it WAS really frustrating sometimes in the beginning, but I realized that it wasn't my age so much as a pre-CIRdom lack of real-life, full-time, year-round (office) work experience. (I know there are probably people who already have a lot of that experience by the age of 20, and a lot of people who don't have any experience like that even by the age of 25-30. No value judgment either way, it's just how life turns out sometimes.) There are definitely CIRs of a lot of different ages or who are in different stages of life, and imo that's great and enriches our community. But I imagine there are different challenges that go along with it, too. tl;dr for me it was lack of experience rather than age that caused me the most initial frustration/difficulty, and while my (young) age didn't affect my overall experience negatively, ymmv (I also tend to get along well with people older than I am/sometimes get told things like "but you're really an OBAACHAN inside" so? hue) |
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Post by Dee on Jun 1, 2018 13:08:12 GMT 9
Hey so, I'm not sure where to put this so I'll just ask it here. Uhhh, for people who are already working I was wondering what the age distribution is like in your office. For people who are in their 20s, are you the youngest person amongst your co-workers? Or is there a pretty good distribution of older and younger people? I am an older CIR, in my mid 30s, however, there is a decent age distribution in my office. I have a couple of young 20-somethings, a couple my age, and a few older. |
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