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Post by CaptainSeery on May 18, 2016 14:19:14 GMT 9
It is important to come in with realistic expectations. It is very much not a vacation, like you say, but it is a good time! I think most of us get a lot out of it.
I know it's hard, but try not to think about it too much! I was actually in China on a three-week study abroad sort of thing when I got my placement. I turned out to be a good thing because I was cut off from facebook and everyone else doing all their speculating, so it did come as a bit of a surprise to get the email in my inbox. But I was happy that it was only a few days before we went home so that I could do research soon after.
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Post by telly on May 18, 2016 16:48:17 GMT 9
I remember the time when I was reading on the official forums of the JET Programme. Remember them?
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Post by zdaradara23 on May 19, 2016 18:10:09 GMT 9
While we wait..maybe we should learn some ビジネス体操 初級篇 中級篇 上級篇
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Post by gyakuni on May 20, 2016 2:53:52 GMT 9
I just got my placement from my local consulate, and the current US CIR for where I'm headed is listed on the prefectural website so I looked her up on Facebook and found her. Is it ok to message her now? My Facebook doesn't have my full name on it so there's no way she can find me to contact me. Is it a bad idea to contact her directly? Should I just wait for the information packet after May 29? Thank you all for your informative and honest posts on this forum!
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Post by ザ・penguin54 on May 20, 2016 7:08:48 GMT 9
I just got my placement from my local consulate, and the current US CIR for where I'm headed is listed on the prefectural website so I looked her up on Facebook and found her. Is it ok to message her now? My Facebook doesn't have my full name on it so there's no way she can find me to contact me. Is it a bad idea to contact her directly? Should I just wait for the information packet after May 29? Thank you all for your informative and honest posts on this forum! Def hold on, the gag order is still in effect for another week. Us current CIRs will get our successors' contact info so don't worry about your pred finding you.
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Post by CaptainSeery on May 20, 2016 8:33:35 GMT 9
Congrats on your placement!
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Post by nikinee on May 20, 2016 9:50:07 GMT 9
Still waiting in Australia Hopefully not too much longer, though!
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Post by shanshan310 on May 22, 2016 9:37:28 GMT 9
Thanks for the replies everyone! I don't want to give the impression that reading this forum made me dread becoming a CIR. I do think I'm flexible and positive and passionate enough about KOKUSAI KOYRU to be a CIR and make the most out of my time in the position. It's nice to read some of the more negative, ranty things about the job so that I don't come into it with too high expectations, only to be let down. A lot of people, when I told them I was accepted, acted like I won a vacation or something. I had to remind them, and myself, that this won't be a magical vacation; it'll be a job with difficulties and bad days to go along with the good. In other news, Tuesday was also a bust. I've been on red alert for an email since last thursday, and frankly it's exhausting. I wish I could just forget about the placement email altogether and just be pleasantly surprised by it one day, but that ship has sailed haha. Life must have been so much simpler back in the days when there were no forums, facebook, or reddit to give people fancy ideas about when to expect life changing emails. I totally agree with you on the second part there. I was totally fine to not think about it and wait till June and them BOOM. Friday morning my FB feed is full of posts about people finding out their placements on the jet page. And now I'm anxious to know ><
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Post by nikinee on May 22, 2016 10:54:04 GMT 9
Don't worry shanshan310, I'm in the same boat! Two state here have got their placements, and the rest of us are stuck waiting until who knows when ;~;
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Post by snell_mouse on May 23, 2016 9:48:14 GMT 9
Just a reminder that even when you get your placements, please wait until your CO/predecessor contacts you, instead of trying to contact them! We have to both wait until a certain date (sometime this week) and receive your reply form before we can contact you, so if you find your pred and contact them first they will have no choice but to awkwardly wait until those two conditions are met before replying (assuming they are the rule-abiding type like me).
I know waiting is super tough but waiting for a reply to something you sent is probably harder than waiting for somebody to contact you, so 頑張って and be patient!
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Post by shanshan310 on May 25, 2016 12:25:25 GMT 9
Aaaah it came I'm in Iyama-shi, Nagano. Super happy with this! I've never been North of Tokyo before. Very excited despite how weak I am to cold weather.
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Post by CaptainSeery on May 25, 2016 16:36:07 GMT 9
Aaaah it came I'm in Iyama-shi, Nagano. Super happy with this! I've never been North of Tokyo before. Very excited despite how weak I am to cold weather. Congrats! I loved Nagano (didn't go to Iyama though). Wikipedia tells me your city holds the world record for most snowman built in an hour, which sounds like an A+ place to live.
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Post by Miiaboo on May 28, 2016 6:13:16 GMT 9
Recently received a placement as a CIR for Kushima in southern Kyushu. But my placement has me very worried. I was not expecting something so small and so isolated. I unfortunately did not understand they would send a person so far away from their hopeful areas (Gifu - Ken was my first choice)
Any words of wisdom that could be shared to help with my decision to cancel my application or go?
It's the isolation of southern Kyushu that has me most worried.
I'm an avid enthusiast of contemporary Japanese culture, not much of an outdoor person. I'm not sure if I could really enjoy this placement or if I may just regret going.
Is there anyone here that could share their experiences in similar areas?
I was under the impression that ALTS worked the rural areas and CIRs ended up in the Capitol cities for prefectures. That's where the bulk of my surprise comes from.
I was also so hopeful of doing translating work, but I'm afraid that working as a CIR in a small city like this, I may end up with mostly English teaching. Is this a valid concern?
Anyway! Very unsure right now! Any comments would be appreciated!
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Post by telly on May 28, 2016 9:42:32 GMT 9
It's the weekend, so there arent't that many of us around, but I would surmise that at least half of all CIRs are in smaller cities or towns like this. Usually, there are only one, two or three CIRs in a PA position in regional capitols which means that the rest of the YEIGOKEN will have to be placed somewhere else, usually smaller cities or towns.
As for what you will actually do there, that would be a good question for your predecessor. Did you google the city and look for what they do there? Might be, they are quite active in their international exchange which will mean a lot of communication to be managed. Unless you think of translation as official govermental communication to residents, there probably won't be much of it there.
You might have to do some English stuff, but your pred would know best about it. Many CIRs in smaller cities have language classes or clubs they manage, but mostly aimed at general citizens, not in schools.
Kushima seems to be a bit out of the way, with Miyazaki being about two hours away and Kagoshima also at least two hours by car. But they have horses there. The city next over seems to have an overnight ferry going to Osaka, though.
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Post by CaptainSeery on May 28, 2016 16:56:55 GMT 9
I think there's a poster here who's in the city next door to Kushima ( mdrs). They may know your predecessor (if you have one) and can give you an idea of what your job will entail. My city is on the opposite side of Kyushu, and is a similar population to Kushima. It is also about 2 hours from any cities (Kagoshima to the south and Bear Origin to the north). I do complain about being inaka but at the same time I really do love it here. I really believe that the inaka, wherever I've encountered it in the country, is incredible. People are super nice, life is slow paced and relaxing. Please don't give up on the position just because it's in southern Kyushu. People don't visit Kyushu much because it is kind of out of the way, but it is by far my favorite part of Japan. There is no distinction between ALTs and CIRs that way. People are sent to places that request them, that's it. Lots of ALTs are in urban areas (literally hundreds of new placements in Tokyo over the past few years) and lots of CIRs (like me and several other posters on here) are in rural areas. And what makes you think that you can't experience contemporary culture in rural areas? The job responsibilities of CIRs varies greatly, so it's impossible for us to say what you'll be doing. But I can tell you that, even though I'm in a city just as small as Kushima, teaching is not my primary job responsibility. I do some, yes. But maybe 10% of my time is spent with that. There's no rule that says that small town = English teaching. And I do a decent amount of translation, although my workload there comes and goes greatly.
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Post by Miiaboo on May 29, 2016 2:01:41 GMT 9
Thank you for the insight! I had spoken with the embassy and could not find any predecessor so I had not been sure where is best to ask.
My first emotional reaction has been to drop, but I also don't want to regret dropping from a knee jerk reaction. Knowing a little more info on what kind of work I may be doing helps ease that stress!
I wonder if I would be too busy to really even be able to consider traveling throughout mainland Japan anyway, maybe the relative isolation is not as big of a concern. Altough I'm sure I would feel it.
Going to such a small countryside area will be a really big move for me, as Gifu city is the smallest I have lived in and experienced.
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Post by CaptainSeery on May 29, 2016 7:10:09 GMT 9
It's possible you don't have a predecessor. Maybe you could try getting in touch with one of the Miyazaki-ken PAs. I found the Miyazaki AJET page which has the contact info for the AJET reps, who I'm sure could put you in touch with the PAs. Be up front about your concerns. I really want to encourage you not to drop just because your placement isn't what you wanted it to be, but if you truly feel you will be miserable (after getting as much information as you can!) better to let an alternate who will enjoy it have it. Don't make yourself miserable just for the chance to be a CIR.
Once you get in contact with your CO, that will help too. Ask them for all the information they have as to what your job duties will be. Find out what's the reason they hired you.
As for busyness, it really does depend. Some people are crazy busy and work overtime, some people are quite bored. For me it comes and goes - spring is very busy but fall is very much not and I could easily take time off to travel then.
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Post by Caic on May 29, 2016 13:17:11 GMT 9
No you have a pred. I have met them before. There is also info on the city's website about the job. Just google kushima-shi kokusaikouryuuin (in Japanese) and it should come up.
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Post by King Quailbee on May 30, 2016 8:56:12 GMT 9
Speaking as one of the few resident small and isolated town CIRs on these boards (pop. less than 10,000, no train station except for a drive that is 20 minutes away and I had to live the first two months without a car so I couldn't even get medicinal or even butter supplies for a while), I am going to go through some things:
If you are having a strong reaction against a small town, it can be understandable in some ways (since the JET video does make it seem like all CIRs work in nice government offices and plan events and fancy-schmancy), but if the placement is something that you aren't happy with then that is something to consider.
I will be frank: Most small town CIR positions aren't heavily translation jobs (unless if there is a huge connection to abroad in some historical or international context). The only translation I do is for e-mails between the sister cities. I have gotten work from the kencho because I made a connection with them, but those are usually native checks. I have also translated a sign with historical information. But these translation jobs do not fill up my days...Translation is not the only way for grassroots international relations and JET is big on GRASSROOTS.
If the idea of going and teaching English or about your culture to people of all ages (from little babies - yes - to preschool kids to high school kids to old grandpas) is something that you think you would not fit well with, then that is another thing to consider.
As a former alternate, if you really feel like this job isn't a match or you think you would be unhappy in your placement (and/or if you aren't desperate for a job), then give it up for someone who really would be happy to have it. I cried when I got upgraded and found out later when I came to my placement that the previously chosen person turned it down because of it being a small town. I am thankful that I came here and I believe as being an alternate, it has helped me be more positive about any of the frustrations and inconveniences of living in an isolated, rural town.
I hope this message does not come across as being mean, but I am serious that if you truly think it's gonna be awful just because you're not in a more metropolis/kencho city and if the job requirements are less than fabulous then give the position to someone else who is probably anxiously trying to figure out how to pay their rent.
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Post by songbanana on May 30, 2016 15:10:00 GMT 9
I was placed in a rural town as an ALT and while there are some rough parts about living in the inaka for sure, there were some really great parts that my city-dwelling nakama were jealous of, and also a lot of the things that affected my early JET experiences had nothing to do with the size of my town, but things like who happened to be my supervisor that year, who happened to be my coworkers, who happened to be living nearby, how people responded to my attitude and personality, etc. etc. If you psychologically could not handle living in a small/rural town, then that's fine, there are plenty of bilingual jobs you could do in some of the major cities. Like King Quailbee said JET is all about grassroots internationalization. If you can't think positively about the idea of moving to a foreign country and throwing yourself into the experience, then it's probably not for you. Also for any other firsties lurking hue clair treats placement requests the same way I treat kids who ask for a different popsicle flavor. "You get what you get and you don't get upset"
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Post by Researcher Irish on May 30, 2016 16:53:24 GMT 9
I was placed in a rural town as an ALT and while there are some rough parts about living in the inaka for sure, there were some really great parts that my city-dwelling nakama were jealous of, and also a lot of the things that affected my early JET experiences had nothing to do with the size of my town, but things like who happened to be my supervisor that year, who happened to be my coworkers, who happened to be living nearby, how people responded to my attitude and personality, etc. etc. If you psychologically could not handle living in a small/rural town, then that's fine, there are plenty of bilingual jobs you could do in some of the major cities. Like King Quailbee said JET is all about grassroots internationalization. If you can't think positively about the idea of moving to a foreign country and throwing yourself into the experience, then it's probably not for you. Also for any other firsties lurking hue gyomu Gyomu treats placement requests the same way I treat kids who ask for a different popsicle flavor. "You get what you get and you don't get upset" I agree with all this and also quail. Just as an insight on placement requests. CIR from Gifu City here. You requested Geefs and we have three English speaking CIR spots here this year. The three replacement candidates we received from gyomu Gyomu did not have Geefs on their request lists at all which you may think is crazy BUT these three people were perfectly placed for the three positions we have and I think gyomu Gyomu did a really good job placing them based on skills and experiences so maybe there was a reason they thought you would do well in your placement.
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Post by hikaru on Jun 1, 2016 14:36:46 GMT 9
I second the notion that gyomu Gyomu tries really hard to place people according to skills and experience, and was probably also considering the goals you stated on your application as well when they selected your placement.
I personally was extremely, extremely lucky, as I got my number one choice of placement, city and everything. I first thought that I got placed here because I was so specific in my request and that placement just happened to be open the year I applied, but after being here for ten months now and knowing a lot more of the specifics of my job, I know that was only a part of it. I had experience living in the city before, was from one of our sister cities (they too on their part requested someone from my area,) and the specifics of the job were really ideal for accomplishing the goals for JET that I had stated on my application, in addition to many other things. Come to think of it, thinking back on my interview, I said a lot of things that fit right in with what I'm doing now, and I did not have any idea there was even a spot open or even that my city had JETs. But that's how it worked out; I wanted them, and they wanted me. Really, it was just a perfect fit in every way possible, which I know must be EXTREMELY rare.
It's much more likely that someone's skills/experience does NOT happen to match up with their ideal placement, but after doing more research/experiencing the job for yourself, you might realize that it might just be a good fit anyway. Like others have said, if you don't think that you will psychologically be able to handle a rural placement, or have other serious objections, then it might be better to let an alternate have the spot. But I would advise you to find out as much as absolutely possible about the job first, and compare what you find out to the goals you have for the program. A rural placement might mean having a little less fun in your free time, but the job itself may end up being extremely beneficial to your career goals. Try to figure out why they selected that place for you.
Just my two cents.
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Post by Caic on Jun 1, 2016 14:58:23 GMT 9
I second the notion that gyomu Gyomu tries really hard to place people according to skills and experience, and was probably also considering the goals you stated on your application as well when they selected your placement. I personally was extremely, extremely lucky, as I got my number one choice of placement, city and everything. I first thought that I got placed here because I was so specific in my request and that placement just happened to be open the year I applied, but after being here for ten months now and knowing a lot more of the specifics of my job, I know that was only a part of it. I had experience living in the city before, was from one of our sister cities (they too on their part requested someone from my area,) and the specifics of the job were really ideal for accomplishing the goals for JET that I had stated on my application, in addition to many other things. Come to think of it, thinking back on my interview, I said a lot of things that fit right in with what I'm doing now, and I did not have any idea there was even a spot open or even that my city had JETs. But that's how it worked out; I wanted them, and they wanted me. Really, it was just a perfect fit in every way possible, which I know must be EXTREMELY rare. It's much more likely that someone's skills/experience does NOT happen to match up with their ideal placement, but after doing more research/experiencing the job for yourself, you might realize that it might just be a good fit anyway. Like others have said, if you don't think that you will psychologically be able to handle a rural placement, or have other serious objections, then it might be better to let an alternate have the spot. But I would advise you to find out as much as absolutely possible about the job first, and compare what you find out to the goals you have for the program. A rural placement might mean having a little less fun in your free time, but the job itself may end up being extremely beneficial to your career goals. Try to figure out why they selected that place for you. Just my two cents. not to be purposefully contrary but i think its mostly to do with the bit I bolded^^^. They for sure take into account when a CO requests a certain nationality (for a reason such as sister city or whatever) and generally try and get people from that country/city. This is the first and main thing they take into account. In my case, I was the only irish CIR last year. My current office requested an irish person as did one other place (i only found this out after i got here). I was originally sent by CLAIR to the other place but when my current office got told they were getting a New Zealand person they rang CLAIR up and complained until they got me instead (dunno what happened to the poor other placement). Either way, those two CO's requests were taken into account and my preferences/experiences were not taken into account at all (not that i really care anymore). Generally they try and place people from sister city/countries (or particular country for another reason) because is an integral part of the job, being able to communicate and having a personal connection with the place you are communicating with a lot. We also requested a person from new orleans for our new american CIR this year, we didn't get one (cos there was none i presume?) but we got an american from the south, which i guess is better than nothing. (i can tell you as well his experiences/skills don't necessarily match with here, I have seen the application). Basically what I'm saying is that I feel CLAIR tries to respect CO's country/city request and that propbably makes it complicated enough so after that its mostly just a lottery. If you feel you suit a place, that is probably just GUUZEN and confirmation bias, imo.
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Post by popchyk~ on Jun 1, 2016 15:10:25 GMT 9
Northern Kyushu CIR here - I live in a large-ish city (population around 474,000) - and although some people like to act like Kyushu is at the other end of the earth because it's not Honshu, there are good train and plane connections in Kyushu (Kagoshima in southern Kyushu has a shinkansen line, for example) and there's 賑やか big cities all over Kyushu (Kagoshima City is one of my favourite places in the world) as well as many other lively and bustling cities (such as Fukuoka, Nagasaki, Bear Origin etc). I know we all joke about "my 田舎 is more 田舎 than your 田舎!" on here, but depending on where you are in Kyushu the transportation is great and it shouldn't be too difficult to travel to larger cities. Also there are situations like no yark shark 's, who was placed in Chiba but despite her proximity to Tokyo has to deal with very inconvenient transport (I'm sorry if I'm wrong, bighug, I just remember you talking about the trains being irregular) - before I heard about bighug's placement, I assumed transportation everywhere in Chiba was 便利 and that traveling to Tokyo from everywhere in Chiba would be incredibly easy. So even places that are more centrally located can be inconvenient transportation-wise. Also, Kyushu is one of my favourite places in Japan. It's lovely Southern Kyushu is astoundingly beautiful and has a unique and interesting history and culture. Kagoshima City has all the joy of a modern bustling city (shops, museums, interesting restaurants) but it's right next to beautiful nature, a huge volcano, and is full of wonderful hot springs. I understand if you decide not to go for the job if you think your placement doesn't feel right for you, but just adding my (admittedly, biased) opinion as another Kyushu based CIR. Edit - Also, a lot of people say that the food in Hokkaido and Kyushu is the best in Japan, and I've found the food I've had in both Hokkaido and Kyushu has been some of the best, hue. So you'll eat well, if you live in southern Kyushu!
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Post by hikaru on Jun 1, 2016 15:29:35 GMT 9
I second the notion that gyomu Gyomu tries really hard to place people according to skills and experience, and was probably also considering the goals you stated on your application as well when they selected your placement. I personally was extremely, extremely lucky, as I got my number one choice of placement, city and everything. I first thought that I got placed here because I was so specific in my request and that placement just happened to be open the year I applied, but after being here for ten months now and knowing a lot more of the specifics of my job, I know that was only a part of it. I had experience living in the city before, was from one of our sister cities (they too on their part requested someone from my area,) and the specifics of the job were really ideal for accomplishing the goals for JET that I had stated on my application, in addition to many other things. Come to think of it, thinking back on my interview, I said a lot of things that fit right in with what I'm doing now, and I did not have any idea there was even a spot open or even that my city had JETs. But that's how it worked out; I wanted them, and they wanted me. Really, it was just a perfect fit in every way possible, which I know must be EXTREMELY rare. It's much more likely that someone's skills/experience does NOT happen to match up with their ideal placement, but after doing more research/experiencing the job for yourself, you might realize that it might just be a good fit anyway. Like others have said, if you don't think that you will psychologically be able to handle a rural placement, or have other serious objections, then it might be better to let an alternate have the spot. But I would advise you to find out as much as absolutely possible about the job first, and compare what you find out to the goals you have for the program. A rural placement might mean having a little less fun in your free time, but the job itself may end up being extremely beneficial to your career goals. Try to figure out why they selected that place for you. Just my two cents. not to be purposefully contrary but i think its mostly to do with the bit I bolded^^^. They for sure take into account when a CO requests a certain nationality (for a reason such as sister city or whatever) and generally try and get people from that country/city. This is the first and main thing they take into account. In my case, I was the only irish CIR last year. My current office requested an irish person as did one other place (i only found this out after i got here). I was originally sent by gyomu Gyomu to the other place but when my current office got told they were getting a New Zealand person they rang gyomu Gyomu up and complained until they got me instead (dunno what happened to the poor other placement). Either way, those two CO's requests were taken into account and my preferences/experiences were not taken into account at all (not that i really care anymore). Generally they try and place people from sister city/countries (or particular country for another reason) because is an integral part of the job, being able to communicate and having a personal connection with the place you are communicating with a lot. We also requested a person from new orleans for our new american CIR this year, we didn't get one (cos there was none i presume?) but we got an american from the south, which i guess is better than nothing. (i can tell you as well his experiences/skills don't necessarily match with here, I have seen the application). Basically what I'm saying is that I feel gyomu Gyomu tries to respect CO's country/city request and that propbably makes it complicated enough so after that its mostly just a lottery. If you feel you suit a place, that is probably just GUUZEN and confirmation bias, imo. I honestly don't see how that is contrary?
I know it was largely due to the sister city thing; it was on my part as well. Like I said, I wanted them, and they wanted me. If you mean that gyomu Gyomu didn't care at all about my experience/skills, I would have to say I don't think that's true based on what my soup has told me and from what I know about my preds.
Of course I know there are people placed with totally mis-matched skills/experienceなど, but that's more likely because there just aren't any better suited candidates.
Also, you have to admit that getting an Irish CIR is a lot rarer and could be a lot more important to a placement as opposed to what US city I came from. My pred's weren't and it didn't matter, but obviously for your placement having someone be Irish is a BIG DEAL. New Zealand vs Ireland makes a much larger difference than different US States. Plus there's no shortage of American CIRs but (as far as I know?) Irish CIRs would seem to be a rarer breed. Me being from the sister state really does not in an of itself make a difference in being able to communicate or having a personal connection. Actually what gave me the personal connection with my city WAS due to my experience, not from the fact that we were sister cities.
But yes everything was connected in my case, and it really must have been a no-brainer to gyomu Gyomu.
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Post by Caic on Jun 1, 2016 15:35:52 GMT 9
not to be purposefully contrary but i think its mostly to do with the bit I bolded^^^. They for sure take into account when a CO requests a certain nationality (for a reason such as sister city or whatever) and generally try and get people from that country/city. This is the first and main thing they take into account. In my case, I was the only irish CIR last year. My current office requested an irish person as did one other place (i only found this out after i got here). I was originally sent by gyomu Gyomu to the other place but when my current office got told they were getting a New Zealand person they rang gyomu Gyomu up and complained until they got me instead (dunno what happened to the poor other placement). Either way, those two CO's requests were taken into account and my preferences/experiences were not taken into account at all (not that i really care anymore). Generally they try and place people from sister city/countries (or particular country for another reason) because is an integral part of the job, being able to communicate and having a personal connection with the place you are communicating with a lot. We also requested a person from new orleans for our new american CIR this year, we didn't get one (cos there was none i presume?) but we got an american from the south, which i guess is better than nothing. (i can tell you as well his experiences/skills don't necessarily match with here, I have seen the application). Basically what I'm saying is that I feel gyomu Gyomu tries to respect CO's country/city request and that propbably makes it complicated enough so after that its mostly just a lottery. If you feel you suit a place, that is probably just GUUZEN and confirmation bias, imo. I honestly don't see how that is contrary?
I know it was largely due to the sister city thing; it was on my part as well. Like I said, I wanted them, and they wanted me. If you mean that gyomu Gyomu didn't care at all about my experience/skills, I would have to say I don't think that's true based on what my soup has told me and from what I know about my preds.
Of course I know there are people placed with totally mis-matched skills/experienceなど, but that's more likely because there just aren't any better suited candidates.
Also, you have to admit that getting an Irish CIR is a lot rarer and could be a lot more important to a placement as opposed to what US city I came from. My pred's weren't and it didn't matter, but obviously for your placement having someone be Irish is a BIG DEAL. New Zealand vs Ireland makes a much larger difference than different US States. Plus there's no shortage of American CIRs but (as far as I know?) Irish CIRs would seem to be a rarer breed. Me being from the sister state really does not in an of itself make a difference in being able to communicate or having a personal connection. Actually what gave me the personal connection with my city WAS due to my experience, not from the fact that we were sister cities.
But yes everything was connected in my case, and it really must have been a no-brainer to gyomu Gyomu.
I just think, they really don't think that hard about it beyond "oh this person is from the place this CO wants"... But basically we don't really know, me, you, our sups, the PAs... It's all the mystical CLAIR
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Post by hikaru on Jun 1, 2016 15:39:05 GMT 9
I honestly don't see how that is contrary?
I know it was largely due to the sister city thing; it was on my part as well. Like I said, I wanted them, and they wanted me. If you mean that gyomu Gyomu didn't care at all about my experience/skills, I would have to say I don't think that's true based on what my soup has told me and from what I know about my preds.
Of course I know there are people placed with totally mis-matched skills/experienceなど, but that's more likely because there just aren't any better suited candidates.
Also, you have to admit that getting an Irish CIR is a lot rarer and could be a lot more important to a placement as opposed to what US city I came from. My pred's weren't and it didn't matter, but obviously for your placement having someone be Irish is a BIG DEAL. New Zealand vs Ireland makes a much larger difference than different US States. Plus there's no shortage of American CIRs but (as far as I know?) Irish CIRs would seem to be a rarer breed. Me being from the sister state really does not in an of itself make a difference in being able to communicate or having a personal connection. Actually what gave me the personal connection with my city WAS due to my experience, not from the fact that we were sister cities.
But yes everything was connected in my case, and it really must have been a no-brainer to gyomu Gyomu.
I just think, they really don't think that hard about it beyond "oh this person is from the place this CO wants"... But basically we don't really know, me, you, our sups, the PAs... It's all the mystical gyomu Gyomu unfortunately yes, we will never know.
they wouldn't have had to think that hard about it in my case at all though. whatever their reasons I am very happy with the decision.
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Post by CaptainSeery on Jun 1, 2016 15:45:19 GMT 9
Ah, I love popchyk~'s love for Kyushu. It makes me so happy~~~~~~ And I totally agree with everything she said. In particular when I visited southern Miyazaki myself I thought it was beautiful. Completely different from anywhere else I've seen in mainland Japan - it actually reminded me more of Okinawa than of where I live now, at the same latitude. More mountains than Okinawa too. Fantastic beaches in Miyazaki too. It hurts me to say it but I think they're the best in all of Kyushu. Yes, CO requests seem to have a much bigger role in your placement than your own requests. For years and years my old CO had only one request for their ALTs (some level of Japanese ability, at least one or two semesters). We ended up with a lot of Americans. I lived there for 3 years and that entire time, out of 11 positions and around 20-22 total ALTs we only had one non-American. This year, they added country requests, and they're getting two Canadians, two Australians, and a Brit. I wish they'd had that kind of diversity when I lived there, but alas. So my guess is that Gifu didn't request someone exactly matching your description. Or there were others that fit their requests more closely than you, anyway. COs can request several different things. A look at last year's form tells me they have options for gender, ability to drive, marital status, nationality (and state/region/city), field of study, Japanese ability (a moot point for CIRs but still)... Any of those things could have disqualified you from going to Gifu.
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Post by popchyk~ on Jun 1, 2016 15:55:55 GMT 9
Ah, I love popchyk~ 's love for Kyushu. It makes me so happy~~~~~~ And I totally agree with everything she said. In particular when I visited southern Miyazaki myself I thought it was beautiful. Completely different from anywhere else I've seen in mainland Japan - it actually reminded me more of Okinawa than of where I live now, at the same latitude. More mountains than Okinawa too. Fantastic beaches in Miyazaki too. It hurts me to say it but I think they're the best in all of Kyushu. Originally I tagged you in the post to say that you also thought Kyushu was one of the best places in Japan but then I deleted the tag because I couldn't remember if you had actually said that or if I was just mis-remembering ;_; I'm sorry! And yeah, Kyushu! <3 Also, something that I forgot to say is that, further down south in Kyushu doesn't necessarily mean more 田舎 anyway. All the times I've visited Kagoshima and Bear Origin recently, I remember thinking about how 賑やか they seemed compared to Oita City. Plus they've both got the shinkansen. I still haven't visited the beaches in Miyazaki ;_; I keep meaning to!
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Post by CaptainSeery on Jun 1, 2016 16:04:46 GMT 9
Ah, I love popchyk~ 's love for Kyushu. It makes me so happy~~~~~~ And I totally agree with everything she said. In particular when I visited southern Miyazaki myself I thought it was beautiful. Completely different from anywhere else I've seen in mainland Japan - it actually reminded me more of Okinawa than of where I live now, at the same latitude. More mountains than Okinawa too. Fantastic beaches in Miyazaki too. It hurts me to say it but I think they're the best in all of Kyushu. Originally I tagged you in the post to say that you also thought Kyushu was one of the best places in Japan but then I deleted the tag because I couldn't remember if you had actually said that or if I was just mis-remembering ;_; I'm sorry! And yeah, Kyushu! <3 Also, something that I forgot to say is that, further down south in Kyushu doesn't necessarily mean more 田舎 anyway. I remember thinking about how 賑やか Bear Origin and Kagoshima were compared to Oita City. Plus they've both got the shinkansen. I still haven't visited the beaches in Miyazaki ;_; I keep meaning to! I don't know if I've said it in those words but yes, I do think that. Don't apologize~ I looked up the specific city they were placed in and it is pretty rural... Plus it's on the far side of where the shinkansen is. It kind of has fun parallels with my city though as they're both the furthest south coastal city in the prefecture, have similar populations, and border Kagoshima. It makes me sad that people don't want to come to southern Kyushu just cause it's southern Kyushu, because southern Kyushu is incredible. I went to Miyazaki in February so I did not go swimming! But just looking at the beaches and listening to the waves was so nice~ I should go back this summer, I bet it would be really nice.
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